- From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 15:28:29 -0400
- To: Marc Hadley <marc.hadley@sun.com>
- Cc: "Henrik Frystyk Nielsen" <henrikn@microsoft.com>, "Martin Gudgin" <mgudgin@microsoft.com>, "Jean-Jacques Moreau" <moreau@crf.canon.fr>, W3C Public Archive <www-archive@w3.org>
OK, sorry about the crossing notes. I thought that was probably it, but
did want to check. Thanks.
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Marc Hadley <marc.hadley@sun.com>
10/15/2002 03:01 PM
To: noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
cc: "Henrik Frystyk Nielsen" <henrikn@microsoft.com>, "Martin Gudgin"
<mgudgin@microsoft.com>, "Jean-Jacques Moreau" <moreau@crf.canon.fr>, W3C
Public Archive <www-archive@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Starting on the HTTP binding edits
On Tuesday, Oct 15, 2002, at 14:45 US/Eastern,
noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote:
> I'm trying, with mixed success, to skim this while also following the
> discussion here at the schema f2f. I'm still trying to grok the
> overall
> flow of what's changed, but for the most part it looks good. One thing
> did stand out as a significant concern. I note that the following text
> has been deleted:
>
> <deleted>
> Applications SHOULD use "GET" as the value of webmeth:Method in
> conjunction with the 6.3 SOAP Response Message Exchange Pattern to
> support
> information retrievals which are safe, and for which no parameters
> other
> than a URI are required; i.e. when performing retrievals which are
> idempotent, known to be free of side effects, for which no SOAP request
> headers are required, and for which security considerations do not
> conflict with the possibility that cached results would be used.
> Except in
> unusual circumstances, other operations SHOULD be performed using
> "POST"
> in conjunction with the 6.2 SOAP Request-Response Message Exchange
> Pattern. Other methods SHOULD not in general be used. For example, use
> of
> "PUT" would suggest storing the SOAP envelope Infoset as the created
> resource, as opposed to processing in the manner required by the SOAP
> processing model (see [SOAP Part 1], section SOAP Processing Model.
> </deleted>
> Was this change made as part of these edits. If so, I have a concern
> for
> several reasons (and if not I apologize for raising this in this
> thread):
>
Nohing to do with me guv'nor. I think that para was deleted and
replaced with the one directly following it as part of a prior change.
> * This section is significant in discussing the concept of "safe
> retrievals"; I don't think we should lose it.
The following (new) paragraph talks about this too so I'm not sure we
lost anything.
> * This was an important part of our negotiated agreement with the
> TAG. If
> I were them, I would be concerned to see this change without warning.
> * I think it is way beyond editorial, and well beyond our remit to
> restructure the bindings.
>
> So, reasonably strong plea to put this back the way it was.
>
I expect the change was part of another issue resolution so I don;t
think we should just put it back without check why it was changed in
the first place - anyone want to 'fess up ?
Marc.
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Marc Hadley <marc.hadley@sun.com>
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