- From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:27:42 +0000 (UTC)
- To: "Gregory J. Rosmaita" <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Cc: public-html@w3.org, wai-xtech@w3.org
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Gregory J. Rosmaita wrote: > > restoring wai-xtech to the carbon-copy list This isn't really a wai-xtech issue (it's a core HTML5 vocabulary naming issue), but ok. > > <q> isn't used much either. I really don't think it is realistic to > > expect <dialog> (or <d>) to be used enough to justify having such a > > short name. > > > > Based on my experience doing studies of Web content, I would estimate > > that if you took a random sample of 1000 pages on the Web, at most one > > would have some text that would be appropriate for <dialog>. > > what was the methodology used? None, I'm making a prediction from my experience of looking at randomly selected Web pages for the past few years. > D and Q aren't used because (a) one does not yet exist and (b) most > places where Q would be appropriate, character entity values or simple > "naked" quotes are utilized... I was just talking about pages that would have any use for <dialog> at all, but indeed, even many of the pages that _could_ use <dialog> would likely not make use of it, even if we educate people until we're blue in the face. > aren't we trying to improve the web -- doesn't that mean improving the > user and authoring experience by using D and Q to signify dialogue and a > quote, respectively, so that they CAN be utilized by page authors... > use of Q and D as semantic markers is not only critical, but the only > semantically sensible thing to do, and lachy's web developer's guide to > HTML5 should stress to authors that they utilize such elements, rather > than indicatiing dialogue or quotations with character entity values, > unicode values or "naked" quotes... My point is that even if every single relevant page used <dialog>, it would still be used extremely rarely and wouldn't justify using a short name. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
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