- From: James Craig <jcraig@apple.com>
- Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:39:35 -0700
- To: Earl Johnson <earlj.biker@gmail.com>
- Cc: "wai-xtech@w3.org WAI-XTECH" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <A48410C6-7BD1-411F-8C61-34EA2261A5C4@apple.com>
The discussion in today's call was whether or not the accordion control could be handled by one of the existing roles such as tree, tabpanel, or list. I submit that Earl's example conforms to the behavior of a single-column treegrid. Single-select accordion panels could be treegrids as well. We still need to address the expected behavior of widgets within widgets. My opinion, although admittedly biased, is that VoiceOver's "interact with [widget]" navigation model is the best approach, and would eliminate the need for most of the excessively complex keyboard interactions defined in the AOL style guide. On Sep 4, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Earl Johnson wrote: > If you'll accept a buggy keynav example for the accordion component, > check out the following link - you may need to use the mouse or get > lost visually ...: > http://webdev2.sun.com/example/faces/accordion/a11yAccordion.jsp > > btw - Sun was correct when the keysequence proposal was approved, > now I'm a free agent. > > ej > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Al Gilman wrote: > > On 2 Sep 2008, at 7:19 PM, Victor Tsaran wrote: > > Hello all, > I know that in early stages of ARIA there was a proposal for > accordion. Earl Johnson from Sun has written a "complete proposal" > for accordion http://dev.aol.com/dhtml_style_guide#accordion as part > of the DHTML Style Guide,. However, there are no ARIA roles and > states that describe the actual widget in all its incarnations, e.g. > single panels, multiple expanded panels etc. I understand that one > of the suggestions is to use appropriate roles and states for the > job, e.g. menus, tab panels, treeviews etc. However, this may not > always be a desirable option, particularly for distributable > components. > What is the plan for accordions going forward? > Should we contribute our own findings and/or proposal for this widget? > > There are serious problems with adding a special role for the > accordion widget. > The accessibility APIs and assistive technologies don't know this > role at present. > > .. but we're (PFWG) weakening, and have decided to give it a second > look. > > Can we have references to some live examples from the web? > > Worked examples illustrating a proposed design pattern for the best > practices > would be the ultimate; but for now just some examples that work with > eyes > and keyboard showing multi-selectability and some or all of Earl's > keystroke > functions. >
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