- From: T. V. Raman <raman@Adobe.COM>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:22:46 -0700
- To: Al Gilman <asgilman@access.digex.net>
- CC: w3c-wai-wg@w3.org (WAI Working Group), raman@Adobe.COM
Al Gilman writes:
> Reference:
>
> WAI Action items status
> http://www.w3.org/pub/WWW/WAI/group/actions.html
>
> Q1: May we say we are done with the ACSS action item?
>
> Q2: Has Chris or anyone from the Styles area looked over
> my comments on the ACSS draft itself, and do they feel we have
> answered their request for an accessibility review of the
> draft?
I'll leave it for others to answer the two questions above, but comment on the
rest of the points:
>
> Discussion:
>
> I think I want to claim success on the part about giving feedback
> to the Styles team, and failure on the part about doing examples,
> and say it's done.
The examples exist --and more than as examples--
The ACSS implementation in Emacspeak is something I use everyday
on the Wild Wild Web.
>
> I can see benefit to WAI if someone were to do a demonstration
> project of bimodal documents using ACSS and print- or screen-
Note: there is a tendency within the WAI group to think of ACSS
as a piece of "access technology" --this is not how I think of it--
ACSS is "Aural Cascading Style Sheets" and is an access enabler.
In this sense, print and Braille belong within the realm of general CSS and
not ACSS
> alternative styles.
>
> Another valuable experiment would be a third-party restyling
> demonstration that would take a page with print- or screen-
> effects and, without author cooperation, analyze them and
> allocate ACSS effects to the document using the visual styling as
> a base of departure.
The above is exactly how I use emacspeak and the ACSS implementation --100% of
the WWW is designed for
visual interaction and there are *no* pages that use ACSS today-- however
emacspeak does produce well-formatted audio documents today.
>Note that the original document doesn't
> need to use CSS to make the latter function doable. One could
The above as I say is obvious and done.
The reason I wrote the ACSS specification to be independent of visual
styles was with an eye to the future -- ie aural renderings should not be
bound to the visual rendering
however as evinced by emacspeak, this does not preclude one from
having a personal aural style sheet that maps today's tags to a set of
well-defined aural properties.
> key the audio effects to _de facto_ classes based on contexts and
> visual effects as much as to classes named CLASS=foo.
>
> I don't volunteer to do either of these. I would be interested
> to try to help with the second demo described above, but I don't
> think I should lead it. If someone can find volunteers from the
> industries that originate Web content who are willing to work on
> either of these demonstrations, the WAI would benefit from the
> concrete experience.
>
> --
> Al Gilman
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--raman
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