RE: Using the block quote for magazine-style pull quotes

Amazing, thanks John 😊

From: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
Sent: 27 May 2021 16:03
To: Louise Lister <Louise.Lister@iop.org>
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Re: Using the block quote for magazine-style pull quotes

FWIW, I'd recommend using the <aside> element instead.

"The aside<https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2F2011%2FWD-html5-author-20110809%2Fthe-aside-element.html%23the-aside-element&data=04%7C01%7Clouise.lister%40iop.org%7Ca41a5793022e4f095e0008d921213b6c%7C8b8986af18bb4882a149fa5a3dd1f995%7C0%7C0%7C637577248871685975%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=mWzH8eAaHTWYG0Kbt%2Bjp7zFrYlfeZu8z2N%2FFByc6FPo%3D&reserved=0> element represents<https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2F2011%2FWD-html5-20110525%2Frendering.html%23represents&data=04%7C01%7Clouise.lister%40iop.org%7Ca41a5793022e4f095e0008d921213b6c%7C8b8986af18bb4882a149fa5a3dd1f995%7C0%7C0%7C637577248871695970%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=nzyaZTMxOg%2BFiHEqrRMnrdWx%2By48EM5HMcEwEHe2Bdk%3D&reserved=0> a section of a page that consists of content that is tangentially related to the content around the aside<https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2F2011%2FWD-html5-author-20110809%2Fthe-aside-element.html%23the-aside-element&data=04%7C01%7Clouise.lister%40iop.org%7Ca41a5793022e4f095e0008d921213b6c%7C8b8986af18bb4882a149fa5a3dd1f995%7C0%7C0%7C637577248871695970%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Vqyt9y1x923X9UztuhXbXNWgILyDpm%2F6wbMopDabluE%3D&reserved=0> element, and which could be considered separate from that content. Such sections are often represented as sidebars in printed typography.

The element can be used for typographical effects like pull quotes or sidebars, for advertising, for groups of nav<https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2F2011%2FWD-html5-author-20110809%2Fthe-nav-element.html%23the-nav-element&data=04%7C01%7Clouise.lister%40iop.org%7Ca41a5793022e4f095e0008d921213b6c%7C8b8986af18bb4882a149fa5a3dd1f995%7C0%7C0%7C637577248871705964%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RrO%2F%2B8APe%2FDJO36TAJY5hqHojnpuzaV4oT%2F1EK79%2FM4%3D&reserved=0> elements, and for other content that is considered separate from the main content of the page."

  *   https://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-html5-author-20110809/the-aside-element.html<https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2F2011%2FWD-html5-author-20110809%2Fthe-aside-element.html&data=04%7C01%7Clouise.lister%40iop.org%7Ca41a5793022e4f095e0008d921213b6c%7C8b8986af18bb4882a149fa5a3dd1f995%7C0%7C0%7C637577248871705964%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=am5HIbmXTNDj3nGcz7aQe6UnOYlPdYExvkzhIS0gFIg%3D&reserved=0>
  *   https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/aside<https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeveloper.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2Fdocs%2FWeb%2FHTML%2FElement%2Faside&data=04%7C01%7Clouise.lister%40iop.org%7Ca41a5793022e4f095e0008d921213b6c%7C8b8986af18bb4882a149fa5a3dd1f995%7C0%7C0%7C637577248871715962%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=qwn5sPA80VSqFm%2BzXCjpfJw47TtYCUt4Anz7WntRj0w%3D&reserved=0>
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On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 10:32 AM Louise Lister <Louise.Lister@iop.org<mailto:Louise.Lister@iop.org>> wrote:

Dear all,

I hope anyone can help. We currently use pull quotes for our ‘interview with ..’ pages which pull out a few lines of note from the person interviewed.

An example below:

[cid:image001.png@01D75312.99604960]

This is being picked up in Monsido as missing the cite attribute.

From what I can tell then, just using <blockquote> may not be the right markup, although it is having the desired effect. What’s more, we don’t need to cite an external source because the content is being pulled from the page itself. Is there another markup type we should be using that would make it easier? Do I need to ask the developer we need a pull quote class such as is mentioned here: https://www.htmldog.com/techniques/pullquotes/<https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.htmldog.com%2Ftechniques%2Fpullquotes%2F&data=04%7C01%7Clouise.lister%40iop.org%7Ca41a5793022e4f095e0008d921213b6c%7C8b8986af18bb4882a149fa5a3dd1f995%7C0%7C0%7C637577248871715962%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=jm%2Fi8%2FFWpadAKN%2Be62yH6I94Fjsm7IPYyFib4fN9ei8%3D&reserved=0>, and would that then mean I then meet the accessibility standard, and I don’t have to include a cite attribute?

If anyone can advise, I’d be very grateful.

Kind regards
Louise




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