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RE: Re: Resize Text (1.4.4)

From: Jonathan Avila <jon.avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:12:18 -0700 (PDT)
To: "'W Reagan'" <wreagan1@yahoo.com>
Cc: <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, "'Andrew Kirkpatrick'" <akirkpat@adobe.com>
Message-ID: <001701ca16bc$908ca6c0$b1a5f440$@avila@ssbbartgroup.com>
Perhaps there is a bug in Opera?  My thinking regarding browser support
for Zoom is similar to the requirements for “supported by assistive
technology” which requires that there be a cross section of support w/ AT
for the web page but doesn’t require that it work with all forms of AT.
All information technology products have bugs/defects.  I would say that
if the zoom feature works correctly across several major browsers that
would be a good argument for conformance to this checkpoint.


From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of Andrew Kirkpatrick
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:57 AM
To: W Reagan
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: Re: Resize Text (1.4.4)

I don’t know.  My guess is that there is some sort of issue with the build
or specific version of Opera that you’re using.  Do all pages exhibit the
same behavior or is it just yours?  If it is just yours then you may have
an issue.  However, if all pages in 9.6.4 are limited and the zooming
works fine in other browsers, I’d say you pass still.  Opera should zoom
to >200%, but I can’t tell from here why yours isn’t.



Andrew Kirkpatrick

Senior Product Manager, Accessibility

Adobe Systems

akirkpat@adobe.com <mailto:akirkpatrick@adobe.com>

From: W Reagan [mailto:wreagan1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:53 AM
To: Andrew Kirkpatrick
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: Fw: Re: Resize Text (1.4.4)

Andrew, please read this comment: "However, if your page does not zoom
correctly beyond 150% then it sounds likely that you fail." Do you still
think I passed?

--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com> wrote:

From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
Subject: Re: Resize Text (1.4.4)
To: "W Reagan" <wreagan1@yahoo.com>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org"
<w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, "Andrew Kirkpatrick" <akirkpat@adobe.com>
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 3:48 PM

On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:15:52 -0400, W Reagan <wreagan1@yahoo.com
<http://us.mc1116.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wreagan1@yahoo.com> >

> The test at http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20081211/G142 is
to determine if the browser supports the website up to 200%
>  Procedue:
> 1. Display content in a user agent
> 2. Zoom content up to 200%
> 3. Check whether all content and functionality is available.
>  Internet Explorer 7 and Opera 9 provide a zoom function that scales
HTML/CSS page content uniformly.
>  This is why I troubleshooted my document with Opera. As I mentioned
before, the only version avaliable for Opera is 9.6.4. Statement # 3 is
true in Opera, but only up to 150%,
> Statement #3 is true in Internet Explorer 7 up to 200%. Do I pass or
fail resize text, or disregard the Opera test and use another test?

Without seeing *your page* there is no way to answer this for certain.
"However, if your page does not zoom correctly beyond 150% then it sounds
likely that you fail."



> --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com
<http://us.mc1116.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=akirkpat@adobe.com> >
> From: Andrew Kirkpatrick <akirkpat@adobe.com
<http://us.mc1116.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=akirkpat@adobe.com> >
> Subject: RE: Resize Text (1.4.4)
> To: "Charles McCathieNevile" <chaals@opera.com
<http://us.mc1116.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=chaals@opera.com> >, "W
Reagan" <wreagan1@yahoo..com
<http://us.mc1116.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wreagan1@yahoo..com> >,
<http://us.mc1116.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> "
<http://us.mc1116.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=w3c-wai-ig@w3.org> >
> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:56 PM
> Opera will zoom the page up to 1000%, whatever you did. Internet
explorerwill let you change text sizes to a few different sizes, if you
use theright units for text size.
> Hi Chaals - IE7 has the same type of zoom functionality that Opera has,
as well as the view menu text size option that we all have grappled with
selecting the right units to work with.

--Charles McCathieNevile  Opera Software, Standards Group
    je parle franšais -- hablo espa˝ol -- jeg lŠrer norsk
http://my.opera.com/chaals       Try Opera: http://www.opera.com
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