- From: Phill Jenkins <pjenkins@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:48:56 -0500
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
- Message-ID: <OFAFB5228B.8CB2703F-ON8625720C.0074E00B-8625720C.007D427D@us.ibm.com>
> I was just hoping for any examples of retail sites that are accessible. My point is that there are none - no "examples of retail sites that are accessible" because: 1. Not everyone or even a known subset of this list agrees to any site being accessible. 2. This list or even the working group has not agreed to what accessible is, if they did, WCAG 2.0 would be done or WCAG 1.0 would still be sufficient. 3. Even though we had (many years ago) some level of agreed to definition in WCAG 1.0, there are known problems (e.g., because of its age) and now differences of opinion in how to interpret the guidelines. My second point is that there are "techniques" that have gone through some consensus process, so those should or could be referenced. If someone tells you that xyz site is good or that abc is good example of accessible, ask them to be specific. What analysis have they done to determine that? Would someone else reach the same conclusion? The good first step in having some credibility in the discussion is to remove the term "accessible" and replace it with something else more specific. For example, is there an archived site that validates to some W3C ? Is there an archived site that passes a set of a testing tool's checks? etc. Something specific that 2 different people could do and reach the same conclusion. In my opinion, these techniques are just that.. And until someone or group creates a real site from a collection of best practices that has been reviewed and tested, all we have are opinions of what are "examples of retail sites that are accessible". Regards, Phill Jenkins IBM Worldwide Accessibility Center http://www.ibm.com/able
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