- From: Liam Quinn <liam@htmlhelp.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 07:45:20 -0400
- To: Charles McCathieNevile <charlesn@sunrise.srl.rmit.edu.au>
- Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
At 11:54 AM 21/05/98 +1000, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: >If seamless accessibility means presenting different material to >different audiences, each audience not knowing what the other is getting, >then I am not at all in favour of it. LQ:: That's okay, because seamless accessibility doesn't mean that. With seamless accessibility, everyone gets the same content. It's just that users get content presented optimally for their browsing environment rather than a description of how that content might be presented in some foreign browsing environment. CMN:: >I am, like I suspect most people here, in favour of solutions to >accessibilty problems which do not rely on the 'get a life - download >hotbrowser version 567 for the BBC Micro to see this website' approach. LQ:: Exactly. When we describe how a page looks visually to the non-visual user, we're simply saying "Get a life--download eyes now" in a nicer way. D-links are obtrusive because they tell the non-visual user that he or she is viewing a visual page. For this reason, D-links should never be automatically rendered all the time; they should only be rendered when the user requests more information on how the page looks visually (as with the "*" key command in Lynx). >On Mon, 4 May 1998, Liam Quinn wrote: >> > >> ><OBJECT DATA="logo.gif" TYPE="image/gif" TITLE="XYZ Company logo"> >> > XYZ Company <A HREF="logo.html" TITLE="Logo description">logo >> >description</A> >> ></OBJECT> >> >> LQ:: Sure, but what about my last sentence: >> >> >> When >> >> we start mixing an object's description and replacement (as has long been >> >> done with IMG's ALT attribute), we make it difficult for user agents to >> >> render content without the seams from a visual Web becoming a distraction. >> >> LQ:: I won't use long descriptions if it means that seamless accessibility >> becomes impossible. (This is why I don't use D-links.) -- Liam Quinn Web Design Group Enhanced Designs, Web Site Development http://www.htmlhelp.com/ http://enhanced-designs.com/
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