- From: Waddell, Cynthia <cynthia.waddell@ci.sj.ca.us>
- Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:01:27 -0700
- To: LBehrens <LBehrens@worldnet.att.net>, w3c-wai-ig@w3.org, "'Liam Quinn'" <liam@htmlhelp.com>
Regarding D-links- What about making them the same color of the background? The screenreader will still see it. Cynthia D. Waddell ADA Coordinator City of San Jose, CA USA > ---------- > From: Liam Quinn > Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 3:58 AM > To: LBehrens; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > Subject: Re: Seamless Accessibility (was Re: your mail) > > At 04:11 AM 22/05/98 -0700, LBehrens wrote: > >Liam Quinn wrote: > >> > >> ... D-links are obtrusive because they tell the non-visual user > >> that he or she is viewing a visual page ... they should only be > >> rendered when the user requests more information on how the page > >> looks visually (as with the "*" key command in Lynx). > >> > > > >Larry Behrens requests: > > > >Many of us are admittedly new to both the list and the finer points of > >accessibiility. Could you somehow rephrase the above (for those of us > >who are logically impaired <G>). I thought the purpose of the D-link > >IS so that those who want a verbal description can get one. (?) > > LQ:: The D-link is a constant reminder to the non-visual user that she is > viewing a visual page. A page that provides seamless accessibility makes > the non-visual user (and every other user) feel that the page is made > specifically for her, specifically for her browsing environment. If you > were writing a page specifically for a non-visual browsing environment, > you > would not include an image, so the seamlessly accessible page should > appear > to be imageless when viewed by a non-visual user. > > LB:: > >Are you opining that the D-links themselves should only appear on > >request, rather than being a constant reminder that *there's more*? > > LQ:: Yes. > > LB:: > >If so (and I can agree with that concept), do you have a suggestion on > >how that might best be done on a page? > > LQ:: An author would use the LONGDESC attribute of IMG rather than an > explicit D-link. With OBJECTs, the author has no method to give a long > description since there is no LONGDESC attribute on OBJECT; perhaps a > future version of HTML will fix this. > > User agents should, by default, hide long descriptions unless requested to > show them (either all the time or for the current page). In Lynx, the "*" > command key should add a "[D]" or "[Desc.]" link right after the "[IMAGE]" > (which could probably be replaced by the IMG's TITLE in brackets). A > graphical browser could do something similar, with the IMG's TITLE linked > to the long description and displayed in brackets (or perhaps an inset > frame) just after the ALT text. > > -- > Liam Quinn > Web Design Group Enhanced Designs, Web Site Development > http://www.htmlhelp.com/ http://enhanced-designs.com/ >
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