- From: Liam Quinn <liam@htmlhelp.com>
- Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 23:57:27 -0400
- To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
At 12:59 PM 23/05/98 +1000, Charles McCathieNevile wrote: >Right now I am using a text-only connection to read my mail and browse. >When I come to a page designed as Liam describes, I will have no ideas >what that page will be like if I swap to a full PPP connection and a >graphical browser. Let alone knowing what the objects I cannot see are. LQ:: First off, my model of seamless accessibility doesn't force the concept on users. If they want to treat the Web as a visual medium and add seams, they can do so as long as the author provided TITLE and LONGDESC attributes for IMG and OBJECT elements. But I don't like to emphasize this too much because I'd rather convince those users that life would be happier if they didn't treat the Web as a visual medium. When I view a page with a graphical browser, I have no idea what that page will sound like if I switch to Emacspeak. I have no idea what voice-family the author specified, nor do I have a clue what auditory icons the author suggested for various parts of the document. I also don't care. When I'm using a graphical browser, I don't want to be told what the page might sound like in a foreign browsing environment. When I'm listening to a Web page on my not-yet-invented Web Walkman, I don't want to be told what the page looks like in a graphical browser. I want the content, and I want it presented as if it were written specifically for my browsing environment, whatever it might be. If you browse pages that fully describe all images, you still have little idea what that page will look like with a graphical browser. Do you know what font will be used? What font size? How wide are the margins? What colours are used for the background, text, and links? If authors should describe what their images look like so you know what to expect when switching from text-only to graphical, then surely they should describe other aspects of the visual Web page. Of course they shouldn't. They would drown the poor text-only user in so much visual description that the content would be lost. They would be telling the text-only user that the page is "Best Viewed in a Graphical Browser--Download One NOW!" Why shouldn't the text-only user expect a page that is optimized for the text-only browsing environment? CMN:: >This is discrimination on a massive scale. LQ:: Taking a Web page and making it visual by describing what the images look like is discrimination on a massive scale. You're discriminating against all the non-visual users who want content and don't want to be told that they're not good enough to enjoy the full Web experience. The Web is about content. Diluting that content deliberately for non-graphical users is discrimination. CMN: >it is creating various classes of user LQ:: No, it isn't. It's treating everyone equally by communicating the same content to all, with the content presented optimally for everyone's browsing environment. Diluting the content of Web pages for non-graphical users does create different classes of users, though. CMN:: >not letting >them know if ther is something they are missing LQ:: They're not missing anything important--they're getting all the content. Why don't you tell your graphical users what they're missing by not using an aural browser? -- Liam Quinn Web Design Group Enhanced Designs, Web Site Development http://www.htmlhelp.com/ http://enhanced-designs.com/
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