- From: Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 08:33:40 -0300
- To: "'Alastair Campbell'" <acampbell@nomensa.com>, "'WCAG'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Cc: "'Avneesh Singh'" <avneesh.sg@gmail.com>
- Message-ID: <008201d61250$8ca49bd0$a5edd370$@gmail.com>
> ‘Set of web pages’ can apply to a sub-domain with a shared navigation. ePub is more constrained than that, so it does appear to be a sub-set of the current definition that also applies to a web page. That makes sense to me after reading David’s reply. Having lived almost forever in publishing, I didn’t realize that set of web pages was intended for as loose a concept as a site. I was thinking more an app with a specific progression, or sequence of pages. It would be disruptive to use what I offered as a general definition. > Electronic Publication Maybe just change this to digital publication, as that’s the name we now typically use. “Electronic” was always a bit of a misnomer. Matt From: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> Sent: April 14, 2020 06:35 To: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Cc: Avneesh Singh <avneesh.sg@gmail.com>; Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Collections of web pages Hi everyone, Interesting discussion, ePub being a single & set of pages reminded me of high-school Physics, where light is both a particle and a wave! Thinking through Peter’s 1st principles approach, and looking at the epub conformance guidance [1], for example: > it is not sufficient for individual Content Documents to have a logical reading order if the publication presents them in the wrong order. Likewise, including a title for every Content Document is complementary to providing a title for the publication: the overall accessibility is affected if either is missing. Considering the backwards compatibility, adjusting the scope of ‘set of web pages’ would mean somethings in 2.0/1 would be in scope there, and then out of scope in 2.2 (or vice versa). How about a separate definition for epub (like) things? If it is essentially a sub-set of ‘set of web pages’, and can be applied (where applicable) to a ’web page’, that’s what we’re aiming for I think? ‘Set of web pages’ can apply to a sub-domain with a shared navigation. ePub is more constrained than that, so it does appear to be a sub-set of the current definition that also applies to a web page. I’m not sure what to call it, but as a first draft based on Matt’s: ---------------- Electronic Publication one or more web pages <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/#dfn-web-page-s> logically connected and with at least one defined reading order, such that whole would be incomplete or unusable if any were unavailable Note: An electronic publication may be a single web page, or a set of pages. Note: An electronic publication may be packaged and made available as a single web page (e.g., EPUB), but the packaging does not alter the nature of the publication. ---------------- Then we could include that in the scope of the new SC, and possibly refine a couple of the previous ones if it can be done in a backwards compatible way. -Alastair 1] http://idpf.org/epub/a11y/#sec-wcag-eval
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