Fwd: Accessible authentication and my 2 cents...

 I meant to send my clear support for Lisa's position to the full list not just the COGA list.

I am very concerned that the prevailing view is that the COGA SC proposals are problematic because they are taking people out of the technological compatibility / testability comfort zone.

I and many others with cognitive disabilities like mine frequently encounter barriers that are not AT issues but that can be addressed by the proposed SC's that we have been working on.

I implore people to look for potential solutions to help improve and include these SC's rather than seeking to exclude them.

We have an opportunity to address these issues for millions of people I for one will not be satisfied if we merely acknowledge that people still have issues and defer them to the next version for the sake of time tabling.

Kind regards,

Neil Milliken
Head of Accessibility & Digital Inclusion
Atos
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From: "Milliken, Neil" <neil.milliken@atos.net<mailto:neil.milliken@atos.net>>
Date: 1 February 2017 at 13:13:20 GMT
To: lisa.seeman <lisa.seeman@zoho.com<mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com>>, public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org<mailto:public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>>
Subject: RE: Accessible authentication and my 2 cents...

+1 authentication is a real barrier to me it stops me using services because I get locked out or cannot get past the authentication.

This is a significant issue not just something that can be written off as a usability issue or booted into the long grass of AAA.

Kind regards,

Neil Milliken
Head of Accessibility & Digital Inclusion
Atos
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From: lisa.seeman [mailto:lisa.seeman@zoho.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:19 PM
To: public-cognitive-a11y-tf <public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org<mailto:public-cognitive-a11y-tf@w3.org>>
Subject: Accessible authentication and my 2 cents...

I added the link to the w3c specification,  that is  the first Accessible authentication technique. It is in the  comments of the issue.


my 2 cents if these  COGA SC (Such as Accessible authentication) do not go in,  then WCAG 2.1 will be a joke, because we will know, when we publish, that conformant content will not include or be useable by people with cognitive disabilities. It will not be inclusive content.

A basic question we need to ask is if we need wcag to enable content to be accessible to people with any cognitive disabilities, and is that an important thing.


If we do, we need to find ways to include this stuff, we need to change the focus from saying no to finding solutions to make this work and include them.

If we don't we are wasting our time. we may meet our deadlines but we will achieve little else .  Please do not suggest moving things to AAA. It is insulting to the user groups excluded.

All the best

Lisa Seeman

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