Re: New Wiki page with SC text proposals to combine issues 79, 78, and 74

Hi Wayne,

Great to hear from you.

On 1/24/17, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 to Laura's version.

To clarify do you mean that you prefer my proposal 1 or 13? [1] [2]

Gregg has commented that they are not testable.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2017JanMar/0385.html

> +1 to John's version, if we need the disclaimer.

Gregg also mentioned in the mechanism thread that an SC shouldn't be
worded to what a user can or cannot do. That seems to rule out John's
approach too.

> Question: Should we let authors off the hook? Once one creates a widget the
> others will copy, and eventually UA's will adopt it.

If we don't, as John has said [3] I suspect we will experience
significant author push-back. For user agents, Andrew mentioned [4]
in last week's LVTF meeting, "I think giving such an exception to
less-accessibility-focused user agents is a mistake" "I think that the
strength of a SC is when we can say clearly that when you do this, it
helps the user."

Kindest Regards,
Laura

[1] https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/SC_Text_to_Combine_79,_78,_74#Proposal_1:_Changing_Presentation_Causes_No_Content_or_Functionality_Loss

[2] Proposal 13:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/SC_Text_to_Combine_79,_78,_74#Proposal_13:_Overriding_Does_Not_Cause_Loss_of_Content_or_Functionality_.28Tweak_of_.2312_added_spacing_details_and_escape_clause..29

[3] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2017JanMar/0377.html

[4] https://www.w3.org/2017/01/19-lvtf-minutes.html#item01

On 1/24/17, Wayne Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 to Laura's version.
> +1 to John's version, if we need the disclaimer.
>
> Question: Should we let authors off the hook? Once on creates a widget the
> others will copy, and eventually UA's will adopt it.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Laura Carlson
> <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> WOW. We have had a lot of great brainstorming and suggestions for SC
>> text to combine issues 79, 78, and 74. Many thanks to everyone!
>>
>> I have created a Wiki page with the 12 proposals that we have to date. It
>> is at:
>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/SC_Text_to_Combine_79,_78,_74
>>
>> Did I miss anything?
>>
>> Are there any listed that you can't live with? Do you have a preference
>> for one?
>>
>> I will bring these to the LVTF meeting on Thursday for discussion.
>>
>> Kindest Regards,
>> Laura
>>
>> --
>> Laura L. Carlson
>>
>


-- 
Laura L. Carlson

Received on Tuesday, 24 January 2017 17:17:18 UTC