- From: John Foliot <john.foliot@deque.com>
- Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 09:42:55 -0600
- To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
- Cc: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, "Patrick H. Lauke" <redux@splintered.co.uk>, Dick <wayneedick@gmail.com>, WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAKdCpxwkibMr2Jf++4rQmJ_b09CWCJ-YjYhOBoaxTkRukknx_A@mail.gmail.com>
> "Don't get in the way of user style sheets by sticking "!important" on classes of your style sheets." Just as an observation, if that is what we are asking (and I don't think that a SC that "forbids" !important is too unreasonable, but the CSS Working Group may disagree), but... if that is what we are attempting to get at, then let's say that. Stop beating around the bush. > It is that the ‘mechanism’ language implies authors should create it. If you look through font-family, linearise, spacing, & colors; almost everyone assumes that is the case. +1 and exactly. There is no doubt that there are a number of outstanding & serious issues that need to be resolved to ensure access to all PwD, but we also need to remember that WCAG is not UAAG or ATAG, and our SC for WCAG should be something that the content author can control. WCAG is not the appropriate place to be placing requirements on User Agents. > For font-family, relying on font-icons to relay information would be a failure Wait, hang-on... this appears to be a very different topic from how this thread started out, with the proposed edit of: *The user can change the font family down to the element level, to any font family available to the user agent with the following exception...* What does that have to do with font-icons? JF On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com> wrote: > Hi David, > > > > It’s a bit more than that, depending on which SC you mean. > > > > The SC (e.g. font-family) is saying “Don’t get in the way of users > changing the font”, but there are several techniques/failures needed for it. > > > > The “!important” one is debatable, with a user-side script you can get > around that, but not by appending CSS to the body (like the Stylish > extension). > > > > For font-family, relying on font-icons to relay information would be a > failure, and allowing for some text-expansion within the elements would be > a technique. > > > > A test would be to use the browser (with the inspector, or a bookmarklet / > extension we can suggest/provide) to over-ride the fonts and check that > content & functionality is maintained. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -Alastair > -- John Foliot Principal Accessibility Strategist Deque Systems Inc. john.foliot@deque.com Advancing the mission of digital accessibility and inclusion
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