Re: Testability of Animation from interactions Issue 18

I don't know but if the definition is for "significant animation" perhaps
we shouldn't use "animation" in the definition also, so maybe for the first
draft something like.

Significant animation:  Movement which continues for more than 2 seconds,
and occupies more than 500 CSS pixels on the webpage.



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On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi David and all,
>
> Hmm. Illusion of motion vs actual motion. Is there something you would
> like to suggest?
>
> Kindest Regards,
> Laura
>
> On 1/10/17, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > Also, what are the implications of the term "significant animation" vs
> > "significant movement"?
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animation
> >
> >
> >
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> > David MacDonald
> >
> >
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> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Laura Carlson
> > <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi David,
> >>
> >> > Significant animation: Animation which continues for more than 2
> >> seconds, and the
> >> > movement occupies more than 500 CSS pixels on the webpage
> >>
> >> Much simpler. Thank you!
> >>
> >> Kindest Regards,
> >> Laura
> >>
> >> On 1/10/17, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >>Would that make the Animation SC easier to test and the proposal
> >> something
> >> > you can live with?
> >> >
> >> > - Significant animation: Animation which continues for more than 1
> >> second,
> >> > and affects more than 1/3 of the view of the webpage.
> >> >
> >> > - I would say 2 seconds threshold, so any animation less than 2
> seconds
> >> > passes, allowing most CSS transitions, which are an important design
> >> > paradigm.
> >> > - For the field, perhaps saying something like it has >500 CSS PX
> >> > again
> >> > that is fairly arbitrary... but at least measurable.
> >> >
> >> > - Significant animation: Animation which continues for more than 2
> >> seconds,
> >> > and the movement occupies more than 500 CSS pixels on the webpage
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > David MacDonald
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:20 PM, David MacDonald
> >> > <david100@sympatico.ca>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> PS I see the definition of "significant"
> >> >> Significant animation: Animation which continues for more than 1
> >> >> second,
> >> >> and affects more than 1/3 of the view of the webpage.
> >> >>
> >> >> I just wonder if that is the right threshold for triggering...
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> David MacDonald
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 2:14 PM, David MacDonald
> >> >> <david100@sympatico.ca
> >> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I guess I identified 3 things that I'd like to explore:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> (1) A definition of "Significant" (Is the test case a definition?)
> >> >>> (2) It is a major requirement on the modern web which is full of
> >> >>> animation, so we better be ready to defend it, it requires designers
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> change designs, marketing to carve out space for a button on the
> >> >>> "above
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> fold" etc...
> >> >>> (3) minimal research available on triggering characteristics such as
> >> >>> (length of exposure, speed, provocation, time of day, etc.)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We have several people sharing their experience which is helpful...
> I
> >> >>> know someone who shares Nat's experiences,and I've been talking with
> >> >>> them
> >> >>> about our exploration which she thinks would be helpful...  but I
> >> >>> would
> >> >>> like more information for such a large requirement...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> There may be times when animation is helpful... for instance a long
> >> home
> >> >>> page on a website, and the author wants people to scroll down. The
> >> >>> automated scroll lets them know they are moving to a place on the
> >> >>> same
> >> >>> page, rather than another page, so it helps distinguish an in page
> >> >>> link
> >> >>>  (href=#...) from an regular link (href=http://...)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It will cause many web sites to have to create a gear icon, or
> >> >>> another
> >> >>> button in addition to a "Pause" button on a carousel. One big thing
> >> >>> is
> >> >>> how
> >> >>> to create a button that doesn't eat expensive real estate, that is
> >> >>> easily
> >> >>> understood. Is there an icon that people with vestibular
> disabilities
> >> >>> would
> >> >>> have? DO you say on the button on the $50Million above the fold part
> >> >>> of
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> page <button>Stop all animation on this site</button>?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> those are my concerns...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Cheers,
> >> >>> David MacDonald
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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> >> >>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Laura Carlson <
> >> >>> laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Hi all,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I am the manager of Issue 18 Animation from interactions [1].
> David
> >> >>>> noted an issue on his spreadsheet that the proposal:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> "Significant - is hard to test. Big requirement on modern animated
> >> >>>> web... minimal research available on triggering characteristics
> such
> >> >>>> as (length of exposure, speed, provocation, time of day, etc.)"
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> The test in the proposal is:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> For each example of animation on a page/view check if:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> 1. The animation is triggered by a user-action, and
> >> >>>> 2. the animation includes movement that is not essential to the
> >> action,
> >> >>>> and
> >> >>>> 3. the animation takes more than 1 second and affects more than 1/3
> >> >>>> of
> >> >>>> the webpage view, and
> >> >>>> 4. there is no way of using the webpage without triggering the
> >> >>>> animation.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> If all are true then it fails.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Do others think it is hard to test? If so, how could it be made
> >> easier?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Thank you.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Kindest regards,
> >> >>>> Laura
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> [1] https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/18
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Laura L. Carlson
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Laura L. Carlson
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Laura L. Carlson
>