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RE: issue #60 target size: addressing unstyled native controls

From: White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 13:16:37 +0000
To: Detlev Fischer <detlev.fischer@testkreis.de>, "w3c-wai-gl@w3.org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Detlev Fischer [mailto:detlev.fischer@testkreis.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:01 AM
> Unstyled: The target is an unstyled native control

[Jason] Could you give a more descriptive text that avoids potentially unclear terminology? For example "The target size of the control is fixed by the user agent"?
> This first sounds like a big loophole, but then, nearly all modern sites DO apply
> CSS of some kind to navigation links, buttons etc. - so for authors of those, the
> exception would not work. Legacy content would be covered. The exception
> would also apply to sites that use unstyled radio controls, checkboxes and
> selects, but in my view, this somewhat hobbled SC would still bring benefits for
> for the many elements (as in site navigation) that usually ARE styled.

[Jason] The alternative would be not to provide an exception, precluding use of these controls in conformant content. I don't see how the exception helps the users whom this proposal is designed to benefit. If we're thinking of WCAG 2.1 as applying to newly written or substantially revised content rather than to retrofitting legacy content, then it shouldn't be hard for authors to avoid this scenario. Thus, I'm not sure that the exception is a good idea - why create exceptions simply to allow authors to do something that is less accessible just because user agents support it?


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