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Re: Resize content - questions remaining

From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 10:59:30 -0400
Message-ID: <CAAdDpDZ6ZfAqMN_BFaRpBt5RqCT5AL3L2UnP4ZBsC=NFhoXVtQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
Cc: WCAG <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
a)       Level A: Cater for a 200% increase in text-size and allow
horizontal scrolling (current SC at different level).

b)       Level AA: Cater for 400% increase in content without horizontal
scrolling, with exception for 2D content (new SC)


Fine with me


"Content can be resized to fit 320 CSS pixels wide ..."


Interesting... it is sticking the CSS pixel technology specific thing right
in the normative language. So its more direct... our definitions have a lot
of CSS pixel talk in them ... the question we'll be asked is whether this
can apply to other non W3C technologies, If the CSS pixel think is in
glossary definitions we can make conversions in the glossary for other
technologies as they appear... but if we put it in theSC text we'll get
some saying, the WCAg is only for W3C technologies. Investigating the
implications of this change might delay the SC... so I'd say let's stick
with the current direction, and keep this in our back pocket. We can
explain this in the Understanding.




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On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Alastair Campbell <acampbell@nomensa.com>
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> To make the most of the time in the call, I suggest focusing on a couple
> of key questions that are blocking progress:
>
>
>
> 1.       The level of Resize content vs the current Resize text
>
> The Resize content SC has a broad exception for content which needs to be
> two dimensional, such as data tables. Due to the exception it useful to
> still have an SC like 1.4.4 which requires 200% but no prohibition on
> scrolling. Personally, I would like to adjust the current 1.4.4 to align
> with the new SC so that:
>
>
>
> a)       Level A: Cater for a 200% increase in text-size and allow
> horizontal scrolling (current SC at different level).
>
> b)       Level AA: Cater for 400% increase in content without horizontal
> scrolling, with exception for 2D content (new SC)
>
>
>
> Could people live with increasing the level of 1.4.4, or should we
> (confusingly) make them both AA?
>
>
>
> 2.       Testability on it’s face.
>
>
>
> Currently the test process includes: Start with a browser width of 1280px
> and increase with zoom to 400%.  If you take any arbitary width of browser
> window you will get different results due to the inclusion on no-horizontal
> scrolling compared with 1.4.4.
>
>
>
> I’m surprised no-one has asked about this until Jake this week, but the
> other option is to rephrase it to something like:
>
> “Content can be resized to fit 320 CSS pixels wide without loss of content
> or functionality, and without requiring scrolling in the direction of text
> except for parts of the content where fixed spatial layout is necessary to
> use or meaning.”
>
>
>
> Ironically that **looks** more technology specific, although the effect
> is exactly the same.
>
>
>
> Are people concerned about specifying the exact test criterial in the
> understanding document?
>
>
>
>
>
> Other issues, just so people know I’m not ignoring things:
>
> -          I’ve answered most comments here:
> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Resize_
> content_issues_review
>
> -          I need to create a definition for “fixed spacial layout” for
> the SC.
>
> -          GregL brought up a point about single-line edit controls that
> I’m considering that at the moment.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> -Alastair
>
>
>
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