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Re: Adapting Text proposals for next week's survey. (was Re: Adding Greg L's Adapting Text proposals to the Wiki in anticipation of a vote between J&K and H&I)

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 14:21:00 -0500
Message-ID: <CAOavpvdG=kwuH-U8zh0Fj0JwLaimkfzgcGGU9zRWLZo-3n6Q2Q@mail.gmail.com>
To: Gregg C Vanderheiden <greggvan@umd.edu>
Cc: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>, "w3c-waI-gl@w3. org" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Okay. Thank you. I'll leave the AAA  as is then.

Kindest Regards,
Laura

On 4/15/17, Gregg C Vanderheiden <greggvan@umd.edu> wrote:
> No - you still need to rule out images of text - because those are pixels.
>
> Captions?   would be nice to change.
>
> What I meant though was the “if the technology allows”  can be dropped.
> Then the AAA provision essentially becomes  “do not use technologies that
> don’t allow”.    That of course would have to be at level AAA and is only
> allowed there because we say that AAA should never be REQUIRED — because we
> have a lot of testable  but not universally applicable SC down in level AAA.
>
>
> g
>
> Gregg C Vanderheiden
> greggvan@umd.edu
>
>
>
>> On Apr 15, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gregg,
>>
>> You wrote:
>>
>>> now at level AAA you can have an identical one that does not have the IF
>>> clause in front of it.  That would mean that you cannot use a technology
>>> that does not allow it.  And technology restrictive SC are usually at
>>> the
>>> AAA level  — level AAA being for people who want to go the extra mile.
>>
>> For the AAA one don't we need to rule out images of text and captions?
>>
>> It currently reads:
>>
>> "Except for images of text and captions, a mechanism is available to
>> set text styles of the page as follows with no loss of essential
>> content or functionality."
>>
>> Instead do you recommend going with:
>>
>> "Text styles of the page can be overridden without losing essential
>> content or functionality as follows:"
>>
>> Thoughts all?
>>
>> Kindest regards,
>> Laura
>>
>> On 4/15/17, Gregg C Vanderheiden <greggvan@umd.edu
>> <mailto:greggvan@umd.edu>> wrote:
>>> yep
>>>
>>> That is what I meant
>>>
>>> AND that takes care of the technology problem too.    If you are using a
>>> technology that cannot support it — the SC does not apply to you
>>>
>>> now at level AAA you can have an identical one that does not have the IF
>>> clause in front of it.  That would mean that you cannot use a technology
>>> that does not allow it.  And technology restrictive SC are usually at
>>> the
>>> AAA level  — level AAA being for people who want to go the extra mile.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now all you need to do is test the SC on lots of pages and prove to
>>> ourselves that this one is doable with all different content types.    I
>>> think I can be but don’t know unless we actually try to apply it in lots
>>> of
>>> places.
>>>
>>>
>>> G
>>>
>>>
>>> Gregg C Vanderheiden
>>> greggvan@umd.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Apr 15, 2017, at 4:53 AM, Laura Carlson
>>>> <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Gregg,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your patience. You wrote:
>>>>>> just replace  IT with what IT means.
>>>>> Can you suggest text that everyone can live with?
>>>>
>>>> I don’t have the language in front of me — but what do you mean by IT?
>>>> Just put that in place of the word
>>>>
>>>> It means override text styles. So maybe it could read something like:
>>>>
>>>> "If the technology being used has the ability to override text styles,
>>>> text styles of the page can be overridden without losing essential
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#essentialdef
>>>> <https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#essentialdef>> content or functionality
>>>> as
>>>> follows:" Then list the bullet points.
>>>>
>>>> Does that work?
>>>>
>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>> Laura
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Laura L. Carlson
>
>


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Laura L. Carlson
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