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RE: lc-2954

From: Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryladog@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 13:34:49 -0400
To: <rcorominas@technosite.es>, <adam.solomon2@gmail.com>
Cc: "'WCAG'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>, "'James Nurthen'" <james.nurthen@oracle.com>, "'Joshue O Connor'" <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>
Message-ID: <049801cfe18b$d5bef8c0$813cea40$@gmail.com>

My thinking exactly!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ramón Corominas [mailto:rcorominas@technosite.es] 
Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 12:59 PM
To: adam.solomon2@gmail.com
Cc: WCAG; James Nurthen; Joshue O Connor
Subject: Re: lc-2954

Adam wrote:

 > -there is no failure for 4.1.2 in a case  > where there is no visible
label and no  > programmatic label, i.e. in a case where  > there is a
control with no label whatsoever  > (as can happen with a select where the
items  > in the select list give the user an idea what  > to choose from).
If the group feels that this  > is in fact a failure, then would it be
possible  > to include such a failure of 4.1.2 in F68 (in  > which case we
would need to split the test  > procedure between visible labels and cases
> where there is no label at all, and instances  > where only 4.1.2 is
violated to instances  > where 1.3.1 is also violated). Or, is this  > use
case not a failure at all, since all  > users are at the same disadvantage
when  > no visible label is provided.

I've always understood that a programmatically determinable name is required
as per 1.1.1 and 4.1.2:

"- Controls, Input: If non-text content is a control or accepts user 
input, then it has a name that describes its purpose. (Refer to 
Guideline 4.1 for additional requirements for controls and content that 
accepts user input.)"

I don't think that we can accept the contents of the field as an 
"implicit" label, it sounds to me like saying that the file name of a 
JPG can be used as the alternative text for an image.

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