- From: Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG) <rscano@iwa-italy.org>
- Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:48:55 +0100
- To: <donaldfevans@aol.com>, <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
H has an heading functionality that is not the "only visual" of other elements: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/present/graphics.html#h-15.2.1 Appliyng a "visibility hidden" to visual elements is semantically scorrect. ----- Messaggio originale ----- Da: "donaldfevans@aol.com"<donaldfevans@aol.com> Inviato: 13/01/06 18.40.44 A: "rscano@iwa-italy.org"<rscano@iwa-italy.org>, "w3c-wai-gl@w3.org"<w3c-wai-gl@w3.org> Oggetto: Re: technique to overcome meaningful link text Span works too. We prefer B because it is 3 characters less then span. 6 characters by the time you close the tag. When you serve millions of page views, you save every byte you can. But I don't agree with the premise that B is a visual element and should not be used simply because it is a visual element. It's a tag just like all the rest That's like saying an H is a visual element and shouldn't be used to convey information to a screen reader. I would agree that B is not symantic and in xhtml should not be used but rather should be styled in the CSS, therefore; the span is a better choice. But basically 6 one way and half a dozen the other. Donald F. Evans donaldfevans@aol.com (703) 265-5952 -----Original Message----- From: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu> To: Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG) <rscano@iwa-italy.org>; donaldfevans@aol.com; lguarino@adobe.com; befree@magma.ca; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Sent: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:12:20 -0600 Subject: RE: technique to overcome meaningful link text Roberto suggests using <span>. This is what UT Austin is doing on the new home page (not yet public): <code> <label for="scope" ><span class="nodisplaytext">scope</span></label> </code> This seems to work with JAWS 7.0 and IE 6.0. It also seems to work with JAWS 7.0 and Firefox 1.5. John "Good design is accessible design." John Slatin, Ph.D. Director, Accessibility Institute University of Texas at Austin FAC 248C 1 University Station G9600 Austin, TX 78712 ph 512-495-4288, f 512-495-4524 email jslatin@mail.utexas.edu web http://www.utexas.edu/research/accessibility/ -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG) Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:48 am To: donaldfevans@aol.com; lguarino@adobe.com; befree@magma.ca; w3c-wai-gl@w3.org Subject: Re: technique to overcome meaningful link text This is an incorrect use of b element due that b is used for set bold text (visual information). Have bold as hidden hasn't sense. Instead eventually use span. [Messaggio troncato. Toccare Modifica->Segna per il download per recuperare la restante parte.]
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