- From: John M Slatin <john_slatin@austin.utexas.edu>
- Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 08:58:10 -0600
- To: "Yvette P. Hoitink" <y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl>, "Gian Sampson-Wild (PurpleTop)" <gian@purpletop.com.au>, "WAI WCAG List" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
I share Yvette's preference for "consistent." I was trying to write success criteria that made consistency testable-- for example, by specifying that content comonents that appear on multiple resources or sections within resources occur in the same relation to other content wherever they appear. I *think* putting it this way allows evaluation to take account of either spatial/visual layout or temporal sequence (e.g., for people using screen readers and maybe in VoiceXML?). While I'm on the subject, I'm not sure I understand why Gregg and/or Jan proposed moving this one to level 3, unless you'd also favor putting something like "visual layout is consistent" at level 3 also. A consistent visual layout places components such as nav bars, search forms, and standardized section headings in the main content area in the same relation to other content on every page (i.e., headers, footers, left-side menus, etc.). John "Good design is accessible design." Please note our new name and URL! John Slatin, Ph.D. Director, Accessibility Institute University of Texas at Austin FAC 248C 1 University Station G9600 Austin, TX 78712 ph 512-495-4288, f 512-495-4524 email jslatin@mail.utexas.edu web http://www.utexas.edu/research/accessibility/ -----Original Message----- From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Yvette P. Hoitink Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 8:37 am To: 'Gian Sampson-Wild (PurpleTop)'; 'WAI WCAG List' Subject: RE: Checkpoint 3.2 (was 3.4) - Alternatives to "consistent" Gian: > > Perhaps we could have a discussion (or a vote) on which of > the following people believe are least subjective: Sorry to burst your bubble but to me, 'consistent' is by far the best option. Why didn't you put that as an option? I will list my objections to each below, using 'consistent layouts' as an example of the use of the word. > * Inherent I would associate this with plain HTML without any presentational markup. The 1993 look of the web if you know what I mean. > * Intuitive Intuitive for whom? the author? the visitor? > * Reliable > * Dependable > * Steady Reliable, dependable and steady web content to me has technical associations. A website where every page has a totally different moronic layout can still be reliable in my LGF [1]. It would apply to the technical aspects of this checkpoint but not the presentational ones. > * Constant > * Uniform Uniform and constant sound more restrictive than necessary. If I have a website with a different color scheme for each section, that would be consistent but in my LGF [1] it would not be uniform. > * Regular Sounds like 'ordinary'. We don't want to encourage extraordinary websites. > * Coherent My #2, just behind "consistent". Between the two, I think more people would understand consistent. Yvette Hoitink CEO Heritas, Enschede, The Netherlands E-mail: y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl [1] LGF = linguistic gut feeling (c) Yvette Hoitink, February 26, 2004 :-)
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