- From: Jim Thatcher <jim@jimthatcher.com>
- Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:57:38 -0500
- To: "'Lisa Seeman'" <seeman@netvision.net.il>, "'WAI-GL'" <w3c-wai-gl@w3.org>
Hi Lisa,
I definitely think the first page is an example of a skip link. It also
exemplifies a skip link that doesn't work with the keyboard as explained in
the original message. I assume, since the skip links are visible, it was
intended that they be usable with the keyboard.
The second page is more like a substitute table of contents. I have this
unscientific idea that 2 or 3 links classify as skip links, but more than
that is either bad design or some other kind of animal because the basic
purpose is to avoid having to listen to a bunch of links - or in the
keyboard case to avoid having tab through a bunch of links.
Thanks for fixing the subject on this thread!
Jim
Accessibility, What Not to do: http://jimthatcher.com/whatnot.htm.
Web Accessibility Tutorial: http://jimthatcher.com/webcourse1.htm.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa Seeman [mailto:seeman@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 9:34 AM
To: 'Jim Thatcher'; 'WAI-GL'
Subject: RE: [techs] Revised , skipping to main content, and more
There are other interesting ways to, with in a page, allow for in page
navigation such as skip links
Some interface we are playing with are page maps which describe the
sections of content on a page. These can be textual or graphical. They
allow people to jump to the section of the document that they want.
In a standard page this does let you jump to the main content , but of
course it lets you do a lot more jumping around, and have , in general,
a non linear experience of a page.
Examples...
a outline of page content such as a page map interface
http://www.ubapps.com/pagemap/www.nds.com/solutions_and_services/solutio
ns_and_services.html#
(sited folks -select show page map)
A graphical page map, a bit like a spider diagram -(requires, uses, SVG)
http://www.ubapps.com/svg/www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20
:)
The SVG one is grate for us Learning disabled types, who hate the
extensive reading required to get to the section you need.
Note this link might go down soon, I just ran them through for this
email.
Now to the question...
Do these count as a skip links link?
Are they a skip links technique?
keep well
Lisa
> -----Original Message-----
> From: w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org
> [mailto:w3c-wai-gl-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jim Thatcher
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 5:32 AM
> To: 'WAI-GL'
> Subject: RE: [techs] Revised
>
>
>
> Here is a revised Skip links discussion base on several
> comments on the list.
>
> Changes:
> (2) id attribute instead of name attribute in anchor element [2].
> (3) table of contents idea [3].
> (4) that headings navigation works in Opera [4].
> (5) added some comments on when skip links should be used [5].
>
>
> Action item to deal with Bugzilla bug #241 [1].
>
> Skip Navigation Techniques
>
> The idea is to provide a method for skipping over groups of
> mostly repetitive navigation links to get to the main content
> of the page. The problem is typified by http://www.cnn.com
> where there is a lead story in the center middle of the page.
> But there is a tremendous amount of information
> (links) that precedes that main story when listening to the
> page or when tabbing through the links. Visually the main
> story, always with a lead picture, is immediately obvious.
> CNN does have a skip navigation link.
>
> When should skip links be used? If there are five or more
> navigation links and/or other content that comes before the
> main content of the page then the skip navigation technique
> should probably be used. If there are twenty links and other
> elements before the main content, one of these techniques
> definitely should be used.
>
> What about skipping to different parts of the page say the
> local navigation links, the search field, recent news, and
> main content, like a short table of contents at the top of
> the page? Many sites do have short "jump tables" at the top
> of the page and clearly this can be useful so long as the
> number of links is kept very small - say four or less. Adding
> more than that is defeating the purpose of the skip link.
> Better than such a "jump table" would to be to markup the
> sections with headings markup - see technique 3. below.
> Sometimes there seems to be no Main Content, maybe the page
> is all links. If that is the case you probably should not
> have a skip link and perhaps you will want to consider adding
> more structure to your page so content can be grouped and
> labeled with headings markup.
>
>
> 1. Skip Navigation Link
>
> The link should be at or very near the top of the page; it is
> a link with a local target just before the beginning of the
> main content.
>
> <!-- at or very near the top of the page -->
> <a href="#main">Skip Navigation</a>
> <!-- many navigation links -->
> <a id="main" /a>
> <!-- beginning of main content -->
>
> User agent issue: IE5 and 6 have a serious bug for all
> in-page links when those links are activated from the
> keyboard. Although visual focus (point of
> regard) correctly changes, input focus may not; instead it
> may revert to the top of the page. There are two workarounds
> for this problem.
>
> (a) Make sure the target (the named anchor) is in a table
> cell! This work-around explains why this problem has gone
> without notice for so long. When tables are not used for
> layout, a table just for the target of the skip link will work:
>
> <table summary="Begin main content"><tbody><tr><td>
> <a id="main" /a></td></tr></tbody></table>
>
> The disadvantage of this work-around is that this is not
> using the table markup for its intended purpose.
>
> (b) When the target named anchor is a link, the input focus
> will work properly. You can make the empty target a link like this:
>
> <a id="main" href="#main" title="main content" /a>
>
> The disadvantage of this work-around is that, depending on
> the screen reader settings, it may result in an empty link in
> the tab-order and in a links list.
>
> 2. Hiding the skip link.
>
> Some designers would prefer not to have the skip link visible
> to all users. There are several techniques used to hide the skip link.
>
> (a) Unimportant image: Use an image that otherwise needs no
> text equivalent and place the link text as alt text on that image.
>
> <a href="#main">
> <img src="spacer.gif" width="1" height="1" alt="Skip
> Navigation"></a>
>
> When using the tab key the link text will be heard by a
> screen reader and without a screen reader the href can be
> observed in the status bar of IE.
>
> (b) Color styling: Use the same foreground and background
> colors on the link text (assume back text on white background
> in code example)
>
> <a href="#main" class="skip">Skip Navigation</a>
>
> CSS: a.skip {color: #FFFFFF; background-color: #FFFFFF;}
>
> When using the tab key the link text will be heard by a
> screen reader and without a screen reader the href can be
> observed in the status bar of IE.
>
>
> (c) Color styling so visible when active: The same technique
> as (b) except in addition make the link visible when the
> mouse is moved over the link or the link receives focus with
> the tab key.
>
> <a href="#main" class="skip">Skip Navigation</a>
>
> CSS: a.skip {color: #FFFFFF; background-color: #FFFFFF;}
> a.skip:active {color: #000000; background-color: #FFFFFF;}
> a.skip:hover {color: #000000; background-color: #FFFFFF;}
>
> When using the tab key the link text will be heard by a
> screen reader and
> seen in the graphical view when focused.
>
> (d) Hide the skip link by positioning it off screen.
>
> <a href="#main" id="main" class="skip">Skip Navigation</a>
>
> CSS: a.skip {position: absolute; left: -1000em; width: 20em;}
>
> When using the tab key the link text will be heard by a
> screen reader and without a screen reader the href can be
> observed in the status bar of IE.
>
>
> (e) Hide the skip link using the display property; either
> display:none or display:hidden. Screen readers will not speak
> text with display:none and sometimes will not speak text with
> display:hidden. Therefore this technique does not work since
> the main intended beneficiaries of the skip link idea are
> screen reader users.
>
> 3. Using headings instead of skip links
>
> If the first heading in the natural reading order of the page
> is at the top of the main content, then the heading provides
> an excellent method for screen reader users to skip the
> navigation links because headings navigation is so simple
> (the H key). However this technique is of no use for people
> using IE and not using screen readers because IE lacks
> keyboard navigation of headings.
>
> It is a fact that screen readers (and IBM Home Page Reader)
> depend on Internet Explorer, but if a screen reader is not a
> requirement, headings navigation is available in Opera (S for
> forward, W for backwards).
>
> 4. Layout so that skip navigation unnecessary.
>
> If with CSS the main content is at or near the top of the
> document or for a page with table layout the navigation links
> all follow the main content, then a skip navigation link may
> be unnecessary. Example structure:
>
> <!-- navigation on the right -->
> <table><tbody><tr>
> <td>Main Content</td>
> <td>Navigation</td>
> </tr></tbody></table>
>
> <!-- With CSS -->
> <div id="content">Main Content</div>
> <div id="navigation">Navigation</div>
>
> One can reasonably argue in both these cases it would be very
> helpful for screen reader users to have a "skip to
> navigation" link implemented by one of the techniques above.
>
>
> Some Examples
> 1. Visible and inoperable http://www.acb.org.
> 2. Invisible (on image) and inoperable http://www.w3,org/wai.
> 3. Invisible (on image) and operable http://www.ibm.com.
> 4. Invisible by color and visible when active (2c) and
> operable by its own table (1a) http://webaim.org.
> 5. Invisible by color and visible when active (2c) and
> operable because of layout tables http://ittatc.org.
> 6. Invisible by color and size (not mentioned above)
http://www.firstgov.com.
[1] http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/show_bug.cgi?id=241.
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004AprJun/0673.html
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004AprJun/0678.html
[4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004AprJun/0679.html
[5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2004AprJun/0683.html
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