- From: William Loughborough <love26@gorge.net>
- Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 19:18:48 -0800
- To: Kynn Bartlett <kynn-edapta@idyllmtn.com>, w3c-wai-gl@w3.org
At 06:20 PM 12/14/00 -0800, Kynn Bartlett wrote: >Are you saying that "next" on arrows is unnecessary, required, or what? None of the above. I'm saying that to single out arrows as having to be learned and taught in a context that implies that the word "next" *doesn't* have to be learned and taught is absurd. I doubt that Anne regarded this kind of response as "dismissive" but if so - sorry all to Hell. The fact is that the little logos proliferating the top of what I type into right now is completely indecipherable to me even though I use it for several hours a day. For me there's a little drawing of what looks sort of like the old "in-box" with an arrow pointing down into it. The arrow is superimposed on what is probably an addressed envelope. Now two spaces to the left is a similar box with no arrow/envelope but the word "in" above it. I know from experience that the first one I described dials the phone if I'm not connected to my ISP and that the other I almost never have to use because it's sort of always on, including at the bottom of the screen. To pretend that all these things are somehow "natural" or "intuitive" is un-sane. They are all part of some nightmare of "make-work" that involved artists, programmers, marketeers, and a huge company called QualComm that now owns a sports stadium - but no matter how hard they try, I still have to learn and be taught what it all "means". Personally I'd rather have just had some words up there but all my right-brained pals think it "looks nicer" with little pictures, so that's what I get. Meanwhile if I want to kid Anne about whether arrows require more teaching than "next" I will do so and she hasn't expressed any particular outrage or taken any special exception to my behavior. The "proof" as to which (just text, just arrow, text with picture of arrow, arrow with pop-up "tool tip", or none of the above) is "better" is probably not even determinable. Different strokes, and all that. To me a mouse is completely absurd compared to a touch screen but the option isn't practically available. If it comes time to vote, I think an arrow with the word "next" on it is OK. I think an arrow with a legend saying what's next is OK. I think a plain arrow is OK. I think the word "next" by itself is OK. I think a ">" is OK. I get used to the previously described icon (representing what in a previous context took an image of a telephone with the word "winsock" under it to represent) dialing the modem, or whatever it dials. That's why I mostly don't vote, because to me it doesn't make a lot of difference. Bush/Gore is like icon/text - in the end one just adapts. In answer to the topmost question I guess I don't think "next" on arrows is "necessary" in the sense that water is necessary. I'm certainly not saying it's "required" and find that notion incredible, So if it's a three-part multiple choice question, I pick "what?". Do I win? (the penalty for taking me to task is that you have to delete two copies of this like I did because you neglected to realize that addressing it to me and to GL gave me a "two delete" task. I spared Wendy and Anne that torture). -- Love. ACCESSIBILITY IS RIGHT - NOT PRIVILEGE
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