- From: Jeanne Spellman <jeanne@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:12:03 -0400
- To: AUWG <w3c-wai-au@w3.org>
Minutes:
http://www.w3.org/2010/06/14-au-minutes
IRC Log:
http://www.w3.org/2010/06/14-au-irc
Text of minutes:
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
- DRAFT -
WAI AU
14 Jun 2010
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010AprJun/0069.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2010/06/14-au-irc
Attendees
Present
Jeanne, Jan, Jutta, +3aaaa, GregP, [IPcaller], Ann
Regrets
Andrew_R., Tim_B., Alastair_C., Sueann_N.
Chair
Jutta Treviranus
Scribe
Jan
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]1. Discussion of issues that might be addressed before
Las Call publication.
2. [6](2) Adding "Any": "A.3.1.6 Present Keyboard Commands:
Authoring tool user interface controls can be presented
with any associated keyboard commands. (Level AAA)"
3. [7](1) Adding "Any": A.3.6.1 Save Settings: Any authoring
tool display settings and control settings are saved
between authoring sessions.
4. [8]PROPOSAL: Split "content (web content)" and "Web content
properties". Without any other substantive change. Both are
already defined terms.
5. [9]Removing "A.3.1.3 Keyboard shortcuts are provided."
6. [10](2) Rewording: B.2.2.1 Check Accessibility (WCAG Level
A): If the authoring tool provides authors with the ability
to add or modify web content so that any WCAG 2.0 Level A
Success Criteria are violated, then accessibility checking
for those success criteria is provided. (Level A)
7. [11]2. If any changes have been made - Last Call vote.
* [12]Summary of Action Items
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<AnnM> hey
<AnnM> did i screw up the times and miss the meeting?
<AnnM> i can't seem to get on
<AnnM> it's not parsing the conference code
<AnnM> i've tried skype as well as my iphone
<AnnM> and it just keeps asking me to enter the code before hanging
up on me
<AnnM> that's what i've been putting in
<jeanne> there were problems with Zakim UK and FR numbers to day.
<jeanne> let me see if they are fixed yet...
<AnnM> oh, ok
<AnnM> ok, back on skype now
1. Discussion of issues that might be addressed before Las Call
publication.
[13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010AprJun/0068.h
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[13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2010AprJun/0068.html
JT: Skip editorial andgo to "Minor"
(2) Adding "Any": "A.3.1.6 Present Keyboard Commands: Authoring tool
user interface controls can be presented with any associated keyboard
commands. (Level AAA)"
Resolution: Approve change to "(2) Adding "Any": "A.3.1.6 Present
Keyboard Commands: Authoring tool user interface controls can be
presented with any associated keyboard commands. (Level AAA)""
<jeanne> +1
(1) Adding "Any": A.3.6.1 Save Settings: Any authoring tool display
settings and control settings are saved between authoring sessions.
Resolution: Approve change to "(1) Adding "Any": A.3.6.1 Save
Settings: Any authoring tool display settings and control settings
are saved between authoring sessions."
PROPOSAL: Split "content (web content)" and "Web content properties".
Without any other substantive change. Both are already defined terms.
<jeanne> +1
Resolution: Approve PROPOSAL: Split "content (web content)" and "Web
content properties". Without any other substantive change. Both are
already defined terms.
Removing "A.3.1.3 Keyboard shortcuts are provided."
JS: Has a concern...
... I don't think it is sufficiently covered.
... Providing shortcuts for appliucations is not typically part of
conventions
... I've read Microsoft's - they don't require them
AM: Not sure that all keyboard shortcuts would be included
JR: AC says he would like to keep something about mechanisms to get
to edit areas and menus
JT: Maybe we can put some wording around it re: authoring functions.
JR: Maybe its a level AA to make keyboard navigation more efficent
and edffective but need be careful to make wording objective
JT: Efficiency and effectiveness should be measurable
GP: Efficiency not always
JT: But can measure by actions
GP: Can't always - often tab order is up to do developer judgement
JR: Maybe use structure of UI?
JT: Irrespective of structure...key point is what functions are
needed for editing
JR: Authoring might not be even the primary purpose
GP: Maybe regardles of what I want to do is there an effective way
of doing it
JR: What about any ability to navigate functions by keyboard access
that is not simply linear
GP: There isn't one testable criteria
JT: Yes when create acces systems for keyboard users we do this
... The question is how do we apply this during dev of tool.
... One way is to allow user to analyze their own use
... But that's not practical for every developer
JR: That's what I was trying to do.
JT: But that makes it too complex and hard to explain.
JR: It's "Bybpass Blocks" from WCAG
... Because accesskey is broken on the web.
JT: OK but in content many more links than iun authoring
JR: Not sure about that DW has many functions
JT: Right but commonly used is much smaller set
JR: But unfortunately on a web abased tool you couldn't do this
... What about rewording bypass slightly
JS: What's wrong with what we have?
JR: I agree.
JT: I'm worried about adding a new UI convention
JR: But its not - it;s like toolbar bypass in TinyMCE
Resolution: Keep A3.1.3 as it is and instead add some support text
to the Implementing document that addresses show bypass link blocks
might be used to do this in web-based tools
(2) Rewording: B.2.2.1 Check Accessibility (WCAG Level A): If the
authoring tool provides authors with the ability to add or modify web
content so that any WCAG 2.0 Level A Success Criteria are violated,
then accessibility checking for those success criteria is provided.
(Level A)
B.2.2.1 Check Accessibility (WCAG Level A): If the
authoring tool provides authors with the ability to add or modify
web
content so that any WCAG 2.0 Level A Success Criteria are violated,
then
accessibility checking for those success criteria is provided.
(Level A)
JT: Likes new wording...easier to understand conditions
GP: Yes
<jeanne> +1
Resolution: B.2.2.1 Check Accessibility (WCAG Level A): If the
authoring tool provides authors with the ability to add or modify
web content so that any WCAG 2.0 Level A Success Criteria are
violated, then accessibility checking for those success criteria is
provided. (Level A)
... B.2.2.1 Check Accessibility (WCAG Level A): If the authoring
tool provides authors with the ability to add or modify web content
so that any WCAG 2.0 Level A Success Criteria can be violated, then
accessibility checking for those success criteria is provided.
(Level A)
<jeanne> +1
2. If any changes have been made - Last Call vote.
<gpisocky> +1
JT: Let's get everyone's vote here...then others later.
JR: Agrees.
<gpisocky> I agree to last call
JS: Yes
AM: I agree to Last Call
JT: Yes
Summary of Action Items
[End of minutes]
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