- From: Frank Manola <fmanola@mitre.org>
- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:34:17 -0400
- To: RDF Core <w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org>
With my Primer editor's hat on, I'm starting to think about how (and where) to describe datatyping in the Primer. On looking over the existing proposal (i.e., Part 1, which we've broken up to go into our various specs) I find myself wondering about a few things in its explanation, which I'd like to find out about before trying to go too far in explaining datatyping. As background, Part 1 says an rdfs:Datatype is a value space, and lexical space, and a datatype mapping, and its class extension is its value space. We then talk about using datatypes (actually, "datatype class") in forming typed literals. 1. in forming local typed literals, i.e., <age rdf:type=&xsd;integer>25</age> there is no explicit mention of rdfs (note that we're not making a global assertion usign rdfs:range here). Are we assuming that if you use a form like this, you're referencing (defining?) an implicitly-specified "datatype class" (without needing to explicitly define such a datatype class in RDFS)? 1b. Also, we need to say explicitly somewhere that all such classes are (implicitly or explicitly) instances of rdfs:Datatype, right? 1c. Did we ever decide to use something other than rdf:type as the attribute? 2. since there's no explicit mention of rdfs (i.e., the namespace), is this usage to be considered part of RDFS, or part of RDF? This is partly my hobbyhorse about which language things go in, but also where I need to explain local typed literals. A case could be made for introducing them before getting into RDFS, since there's no explicit syntactic connection. On the other hand, is this something like rdf:type, where the full semantics don't become available without RDFS-awareness? 3. Section 5 defines an RDF Schema for rdfs:Datatype, and defines it as a subclass of rdfs:Property. This doesn't seem to match its description as having three components, nor the description of its class extension being the value space (since the extension of a property is a set of pairs). This also doesn't seem to match the idea that we're using datatypes to define typed literals themselves (rather than properties of those literals), and also potentially makes for funny graphs in the global idiom (right now we define the range of age as an integer by having the range property point to a node; should it point to an edge instead?). So why is rdfs:Datatype a subclass of rdfs:Property? 3b. If we're expecting people to explicitly define datatypes they use in RDFS declarations (as instances of rdfs:Datatype), we need to say so, and we need some examples, right? (Presumably these would be RDF resources having an rdf:type of rdfs:Datatype, but people would also probably expect to have to specify other information about the data type as well, and want to know how). If we're not expecting people to explicitly define datatypes in RDFS (i.e., instead they are implicitly defined by, say, referencing them in typed literals), we need to say that too, right? --Frank -- Frank Manola The MITRE Corporation 202 Burlington Road, MS A345 Bedford, MA 01730-1420 mailto:fmanola@mitre.org voice: 781-271-8147 FAX: 781-271-875
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