- From: pat hayes <phayes@ai.uwf.edu>
- Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 12:20:36 -0700
- To: <bdehora@interx.com>
- Cc: w3c-rdfcore-wg@w3.org
>Pushing aside resource mumbo jumbo (red herrings). I disagree; the problem is to get this mumbo jumbo consistent, since our remit is to make the M&S spec coherent. >To me, it >comes down to these 3 questions: > >1: Feasibility: can we give RDF Literals URIs in the M&S and >stay within the charter? Yes, but.... >2: Validity: should we give RDF Literals URIs in the M&S? No, because.... >3: Purpose: if we did give RDF Literals URIs, what are we >using the RDF to describe? (it's not at all clear to me) If you use the literal, you are describing a value directly; if you were to use the URI of the literal, you would be referring to a representation of the value. And there really isn't much utility in doing that, as far as I can see. Still, you *could* do it, and you would be referring to the same thing if you did so. But further to 2.; while we should not give literals URI's , they are nevertheless resources. Thats all we need to say. Pat Hayes PS. Heres how Ive been translating this debate internally, which may help get the central issues clear. resource <----> entity (ie anything at all, anything in the universe or out of it, anything that can possibly be referred to or quantified over; anything that can be conceived of in the mind of Man, God or Tim B-L; the most general category possible.) URI <------> name, referring expression literal <-----> numeral, a special kind of referring expression from which the referent can be computed. number <------> the entities that numerals refer to. Now, are numbers entities? Yes. Are *numerals* entities? Well, yes. Is there any difference between a numeral and a URI? Not much difference semantically - they are both referring expressions - but quite a lot of difference syntactically. So: literals are resources (of course) but literals are not URIs. On the other hand, the value denoted by a literal *could* be given a URI, and so could the literal itself. >Bill > >--- >Bill de hÓra : InterX : bdehora@interx.com > > >:-----Original Message----- >:From: Aaron Swartz [mailto:me@aaronsw.com] >:Sent: 05 July 2001 23:24 >:To: Brian McBride >:Cc: Ron Daniel; rdf core >:Subject: Re: #rdfms-literals-as-resources in scope? > >[...] --------------------------------------------------------------------- IHMC (850)434 8903 home 40 South Alcaniz St. (850)202 4416 office Pensacola, FL 32501 (850)202 4440 fax phayes@ai.uwf.edu http://www.coginst.uwf.edu/~phayes
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