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Re: [whatwg] New URL Standard from Anne van Kesteren on 2012-09-24 (public-whatwg-archive@w3.org from September 2012)

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:55:42 +0000 (UTC)
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
cc: Noah Mendelsohn <nrm@arcanedomain.com>, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, URI <uri@w3.org>, IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>, mnot@mnot.net
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1210221753010.2471@ps20323.dreamhostps.com>
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 18/10/2012 02:25, Noah Mendelsohn wrote:
> > On 10/17/2012 7:57 PM, Ian Hickson wrote:
> >> Yeah. Turns out we (the Web standards community) haven't been doing 
> >> such a great job of making our specificatiosn match reality.:-(
> > 
> > Um, true... but it's also the case that the implementation community 
> > hasn't over the years been doing as much as might be best to make 
> > reality match the specifications. The new specs we're writing now 
> > would like have been a lot thinner and cleaner if they had.
> 
> However, I think the concern here is that if certain IETF specs need to 
> be updated to match the real world, that work needs to be done in the 
> IETF.

I couldn't agree more! We've been waiting for four years for the URI 
working group to get their act together and fix the URL mess. Nothing has 
happened. We lost patience and are now doing it ourselves.

I'm sure Anne would love nothing more than to be able to work on something 
more interesting that this. But at the end of the day, someone has to do 
it, and y'all aren't doing it.

This should not come as a surprise to anyone, the IETF and W3C have been 
discussing this matter at last as far back as 2008.


> It can't be done by reference in a W3C document; it has to be done by 
> value in an IETF document.

Currently it's only being done in a WHATWG document.

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