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Re: [whatwg] New URL Standard from Anne van Kesteren on 2012-09-24 (public-whatwg-archive@w3.org from September 2012)

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 23:57:38 +0000 (UTC)
To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
cc: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, URI <uri@w3.org>, IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1210172354500.2478@ps20323.dreamhostps.com>
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> It's also not clear to me what the WHATWG HTML Living Standard [1] 
> really means by "willful violation"
> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/introduction.html#willful-violation

Can you elaborate on how the definition you cite there in the spec is 
unclear? I'm not sure how to make it clearer.

> e.g., is it just an allowance for APIs and browser software to not be 
> completely strict about processing some input for the sake of backward 
> compatibility with existing (messy) web content, or is it an active 
> attempt at redefining core protocols?

The spec seems pretty clear that it's the latter ("conflicting needs have 
led to this specification violating the requirements of these other 

> However, it is interesting that the willful violations are not limited 
> to RFC 3986: the spec also mentions willful violations of RFC 2046, RFC 
> 2616, RFC 2781, RFC 5322, EcmaScript, XPath, XSLT, and Unicode. Quite a 
> list...

Yeah. Turns out we (the Web standards community) haven't been doing such a 
great job of making our specificatiosn match reality. :-(

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