- From: Stefan Decker <stefan.decker@deri.org>
- Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:25:52 +0000
- To: Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Cc: Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Markus Krötzsch <markus.kroetzsch@cs.ox.ac.uk>
Hugh, the directory/table style information seems to be very limited. Wikipedia descriptions of e.g., Microsoft or IBM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM are a lot richer than the directory information contained at the W3C site or the STI site. So maybe the Semantic Mediawiki style approach combines the best of all worlds - reusable catalog metadata, rich descriptions, easy extensibility - into one approach? Best, Stefan On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: > Eeek! > Please, not Yet Another Directory of companies, tools, projects. > There are already quite few of these, I think, all expecting people to come along and edit them. > This one went through the list only a couple of months ago. > http://dir.w3.org/directory/categories_list.xhtml?construct > then for projects there is > http://www.w3.org/wiki/SweoIG/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData#Research_Projects_focusing_on_Linked_Data > > Of course, if there is a Semantic Web solution so I only have to provide my data once (or even by publishing an RDF file?)... :-) > > Well done all resurrecting semantic web.org. > Hugh > > On 16 Jan 2012, at 09:16, Stefan Decker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I think this is an excellent idea. >> In the early days we had this with business.semanticweb.org - but it makes >> a lot more sense to integrate it into the main site. >> To give it a head start maybe a few of us (you, Michael, Markus) >> add a number of obvious candidates. >> >> Best. >> >> Stefan >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> One of the use cases for semanticweb.org can be collecting informations >>> about SW companies. This can be benefitial both for the resourse, for the >>> company and for end users who want to know, what companies are making >>> business related to the Semantic Web. >>> 1) It's good for semanticweb.org because wiki will be used more intencively. >>> Some of the companies will eventually decide to post information about their >>> projects. >>> 2) It's good for companies. Some of them are too small to be in Wikipedia, >>> but can experience a need in self-promotion and search engine optimization. >>> Semanticweb.org rank on Alexa.com is big enough and Semantic MediaWiki can >>> provide Rich snippets for popular engines so that search results will be >>> prettier. >>> 3) It's good for user who is interesing in semantic web technologies - a >>> younger scientist can make a good survey of the companies, a potential >>> customer of semanticweb solutions can have centralized entry point for >>> search the company she needs. >>> >>> Presently there are some companies described on a wiki. But there is no >>> infobox for them and the are not shown on the Main page. >>> >>> Sincerely yours, >>> ----- >>> Yury Katkov >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Stefan Decker <stefan.decker@deri.org> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> A recent proposal we are working on is to establish a vocabulary editing >>>> facility under SemanticWeb.org, >>>> If there are suggestions for usages of SemanticWeb.org >>>> we would look forward to hear about those! >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Stefan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Dieter Fensel <dieter.fensel@sti2.at> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>> >>>>> as Stefan, I think this is a great proposal of you!! I appreciate very >>>>> much >>>>> your kind offer in supporting >>>>> the community in archiving the past. >>>>> >>>>> Do you also have some proposals in mind on how we should support the >>>>> future >>>>> evolvement >>>>> of this information source? >>>>> >>>>> Looking forward your advice, >>>>> >>>>> Dieter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> At 05:42 PM 1/13/2012, Tim Berners-Lee wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It's not an offer, I'm just saying we have one that in the past. >>>>>> >>>>>> For any future project we'd have to understand what is needed and what >>>>>> it >>>>>> would take >>>>>> to do, before we could offer anything. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2012-01 -13, at 09:46, Stefan Decker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> this is a great offer! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Stefan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> This is indeed an important issue for the community. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One community service that W3C has provided in the past has been to >>>>>>>> take over the service of a domain, like daml.org, which hosts >>>>>>>> ontologies which may be used by all kinds of people, but whose >>>>>>>> development has stopped. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, we have come to agreements with some domain hosts which >>>>>>>> have sem web ontologies that if they wrap up the project or the >>>>>>>> organization >>>>>>>> we will take over the domain in the future. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> W3C itself has a persistence policy which commits that we will do >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>> with another public interest hosting organization should we ever >>>>>>>> wrap up W3C. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I could ask folks whether we could do this for *.semanticweb.org >>>>>>>> domains >>>>>>>> which are no longer being modified. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2012-01 -13, at 04:04, Michael Hausenblas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is only weakly related to this wiki site discussion but >>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>> be easy to solve anyway. Short answers: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Subdomains of semanticweb.org are managed independently and >>>>>>>>>> (mainly) on different servers run by different people. The >>>>>>>>>> responsibility is >>>>>>>>>> with the people who asked for the subdomain. Stefan Decker is >>>>>>>>>> managing the >>>>>>>>>> domain registration and should know who is responsible in cases >>>>>>>>>> where it is >>>>>>>>>> not clear from the web page. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Exactly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Content of earlier versions of semanticweb.org has not been >>>>>>>>>> migrated in the last relaunch of the site a few years ago. As long >>>>>>>>>> as it is >>>>>>>>>> just static HTML content that does not conflict with new content >>>>>>>>>> (i.e., if >>>>>>>>>> there is nothing else under that URL now), it would be possible to >>>>>>>>>> put it >>>>>>>>>> back into its place. To do this, please send me an email with the >>>>>>>>>> archived >>>>>>>>>> HTML content and let me know where to put it. I do not have access >>>>>>>>>> to any >>>>>>>>>> old versions of the site, so I cannot help in finding the old >>>>>>>>>> content. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How did that happen? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe we should also have a look at >>>>>>>>> http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:PopularPages to figure what is >>>>>>>>> relevant >>>>>>>>> or not (modulo person-pages and long tail). Happy to invest some >>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>> content-wise ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>>> -[...] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Professor Stefan Decker >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Professor of Digital Enterprise >>>>>>> >>>>>>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tel: +353.91.495011 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Web: http://www.deri.ie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dieter Fensel >>>>> Director STI Innsbruck, University of Innsbruck, Austria >>>>> http://www.sti-innsbruck.at/ >>>>> phone: +43-512-507-6488/5, fax: +43-512-507-9872 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Professor Stefan Decker >>>> >>>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute, >>>> >>>> Professor of Digital Enterprise >>>> >>>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland. >>>> >>>> Tel: +353.91.495011 >>>> >>>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org >>>> >>>> Web: http://www.deri.ie >>>> >>>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Professor Stefan Decker >> >> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute, >> >> Professor of Digital Enterprise >> >> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland. >> >> Tel: +353.91.495011 >> >> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org >> >> Web: http://www.deri.ie >> >> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org >> > > -- > Hugh Glaser, > Web and Internet Science > Electronics and Computer Science, > University of Southampton, > Southampton SO17 1BJ > Work: +44 23 8059 3670, Fax: +44 23 8059 3045 > Mobile: +44 75 9533 4155 , Home: +44 23 8061 5652 > http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~hg/ > -- Professor Stefan Decker Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute, Professor of Digital Enterprise National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland. Tel: +353.91.495011 E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org Web: http://www.deri.ie Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org
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