- From: Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:00:11 +0000
- To: Stefan Decker <stefan.decker@deri.org>
- CC: Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>, Markus Krötzsch <markus.kroetzsch@cs.ox.ac.uk>
Certainly, Stefan, sounds nice. As long as it doesn't just become another place I have to remember to put stuff. So someone would have to persuade (and help?) directory maintainers to automagically source stuff from it. Oh dear, is that the Semantic Web? Sounds a bit of a challenge :-) Best Hugh On 16 Jan 2012, at 17:25, Stefan Decker wrote: > Hugh, > > the directory/table style information seems to be very limited. > Wikipedia descriptions of e.g., Microsoft or IBM. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM > are a lot richer than the directory information contained at the W3C > site or the STI site. > So maybe the Semantic Mediawiki style approach combines the best of > all worlds - reusable catalog metadata, rich descriptions, easy > extensibility - into one approach? > > Best, > > Stefan > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: >> Eeek! >> Please, not Yet Another Directory of companies, tools, projects. >> There are already quite few of these, I think, all expecting people to come along and edit them. >> This one went through the list only a couple of months ago. >> http://dir.w3.org/directory/categories_list.xhtml?construct >> then for projects there is >> http://www.w3.org/wiki/SweoIG/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData#Research_Projects_focusing_on_Linked_Data >> >> Of course, if there is a Semantic Web solution so I only have to provide my data once (or even by publishing an RDF file?)... :-) >> >> Well done all resurrecting semantic web.org. >> Hugh >> >> On 16 Jan 2012, at 09:16, Stefan Decker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I think this is an excellent idea. >>> In the early days we had this with business.semanticweb.org - but it makes >>> a lot more sense to integrate it into the main site. >>> To give it a head start maybe a few of us (you, Michael, Markus) >>> add a number of obvious candidates. >>> >>> Best. >>> >>> Stefan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> One of the use cases for semanticweb.org can be collecting informations >>>> about SW companies. This can be benefitial both for the resourse, for the >>>> company and for end users who want to know, what companies are making >>>> business related to the Semantic Web. >>>> 1) It's good for semanticweb.org because wiki will be used more intencively. >>>> Some of the companies will eventually decide to post information about their >>>> projects. >>>> 2) It's good for companies. Some of them are too small to be in Wikipedia, >>>> but can experience a need in self-promotion and search engine optimization. >>>> Semanticweb.org rank on Alexa.com is big enough and Semantic MediaWiki can >>>> provide Rich snippets for popular engines so that search results will be >>>> prettier. >>>> 3) It's good for user who is interesing in semantic web technologies - a >>>> younger scientist can make a good survey of the companies, a potential >>>> customer of semanticweb solutions can have centralized entry point for >>>> search the company she needs. >>>> >>>> Presently there are some companies described on a wiki. But there is no >>>> infobox for them and the are not shown on the Main page. >>>> >>>> Sincerely yours, >>>> ----- >>>> Yury Katkov >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Stefan Decker <stefan.decker@deri.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> A recent proposal we are working on is to establish a vocabulary editing >>>>> facility under SemanticWeb.org, >>>>> If there are suggestions for usages of SemanticWeb.org >>>>> we would look forward to hear about those! >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Stefan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Dieter Fensel <dieter.fensel@sti2.at> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>> >>>>>> as Stefan, I think this is a great proposal of you!! I appreciate very >>>>>> much >>>>>> your kind offer in supporting >>>>>> the community in archiving the past. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you also have some proposals in mind on how we should support the >>>>>> future >>>>>> evolvement >>>>>> of this information source? >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking forward your advice, >>>>>> >>>>>> Dieter >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> At 05:42 PM 1/13/2012, Tim Berners-Lee wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's not an offer, I'm just saying we have one that in the past. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For any future project we'd have to understand what is needed and what >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> would take >>>>>>> to do, before we could offer anything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2012-01 -13, at 09:46, Stefan Decker wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this is a great offer! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> Stefan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> This is indeed an important issue for the community. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One community service that W3C has provided in the past has been to >>>>>>>>> take over the service of a domain, like daml.org, which hosts >>>>>>>>> ontologies which may be used by all kinds of people, but whose >>>>>>>>> development has stopped. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also, we have come to agreements with some domain hosts which >>>>>>>>> have sem web ontologies that if they wrap up the project or the >>>>>>>>> organization >>>>>>>>> we will take over the domain in the future. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> W3C itself has a persistence policy which commits that we will do >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>> with another public interest hosting organization should we ever >>>>>>>>> wrap up W3C. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I could ask folks whether we could do this for *.semanticweb.org >>>>>>>>> domains >>>>>>>>> which are no longer being modified. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2012-01 -13, at 04:04, Michael Hausenblas wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is only weakly related to this wiki site discussion but >>>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>> be easy to solve anyway. Short answers: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Subdomains of semanticweb.org are managed independently and >>>>>>>>>>> (mainly) on different servers run by different people. The >>>>>>>>>>> responsibility is >>>>>>>>>>> with the people who asked for the subdomain. Stefan Decker is >>>>>>>>>>> managing the >>>>>>>>>>> domain registration and should know who is responsible in cases >>>>>>>>>>> where it is >>>>>>>>>>> not clear from the web page. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Exactly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Content of earlier versions of semanticweb.org has not been >>>>>>>>>>> migrated in the last relaunch of the site a few years ago. As long >>>>>>>>>>> as it is >>>>>>>>>>> just static HTML content that does not conflict with new content >>>>>>>>>>> (i.e., if >>>>>>>>>>> there is nothing else under that URL now), it would be possible to >>>>>>>>>>> put it >>>>>>>>>>> back into its place. To do this, please send me an email with the >>>>>>>>>>> archived >>>>>>>>>>> HTML content and let me know where to put it. I do not have access >>>>>>>>>>> to any >>>>>>>>>>> old versions of the site, so I cannot help in finding the old >>>>>>>>>>> content. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How did that happen? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe we should also have a look at >>>>>>>>>> http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Special:PopularPages to figure what is >>>>>>>>>> relevant >>>>>>>>>> or not (modulo person-pages and long tail). Happy to invest some >>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>> content-wise ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>>>> -[...] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Professor Stefan Decker >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Professor of Digital Enterprise >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tel: +353.91.495011 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Web: http://www.deri.ie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dieter Fensel >>>>>> Director STI Innsbruck, University of Innsbruck, Austria >>>>>> http://www.sti-innsbruck.at/ >>>>>> phone: +43-512-507-6488/5, fax: +43-512-507-9872 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Professor Stefan Decker >>>>> >>>>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute, >>>>> >>>>> Professor of Digital Enterprise >>>>> >>>>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland. >>>>> >>>>> Tel: +353.91.495011 >>>>> >>>>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org >>>>> >>>>> Web: http://www.deri.ie >>>>> >>>>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Professor Stefan Decker >>> >>> Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute, >>> >>> Professor of Digital Enterprise >>> >>> National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland. >>> >>> Tel: +353.91.495011 >>> >>> E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org >>> >>> Web: http://www.deri.ie >>> >>> Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org >>> >> >> -- >> Hugh Glaser, >> Web and Internet Science >> Electronics and Computer Science, >> University of Southampton, >> Southampton SO17 1BJ >> Work: +44 23 8059 3670, Fax: +44 23 8059 3045 >> Mobile: +44 75 9533 4155 , Home: +44 23 8061 5652 >> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~hg/ >> > > > > -- > Professor Stefan Decker > > Director, Digital Enterprise Research Institute, > > Professor of Digital Enterprise > > National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland. > > Tel: +353.91.495011 > > E-mail: stefan.decker@deri.org > > Web: http://www.deri.ie > > Personal: http://www.stefandecker.org -- Hugh Glaser, Web and Internet Science Electronics and Computer Science, University of Southampton, Southampton SO17 1BJ Work: +44 23 8059 3670, Fax: +44 23 8059 3045 Mobile: +44 75 9533 4155 , Home: +44 23 8061 5652 http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~hg/
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