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Re: RDF Syntaxes 2.0

From: Steve Harris <steve.harris@garlik.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:42:25 +0000
Cc: semantic-web@w3.org
Message-Id: <97A3917E-C438-4A8F-A128-98D1791725B4@garlik.com>
To: Dave Beckett <dave@dajobe.org>
On 25 Jan 2010, at 16:23, Dave Beckett wrote:
> Steve Harris wrote:
>> On 25 Jan 2010, at 05:38, Dave Beckett wrote:
>> ...
>>> So I'm happy with how Turtle turned out and that should be the focus
>>> of RDF
>>> syntax formats *for users*.  It does need an update and I'll  
>>> probably
>>> work
>>> on that whether or not a new syntax is part of some future working
>>> group - I
>>> have a pile of fixes to go in.  Adding named graphs (TRIG) might be
>>> the next
>>> step for this if it was a standard.
>>
>> Agreed, I also think Turtle is close to the sweet spot of
>> compactness/complexity and human/machine readability.
>>
>> I'm also a fan of TriG (modulo some minor syntax oddities), but I  
>> don't
>> want to see them merged. Sometimes it's helpful to know that what  
>> you're
>> going to get won't have any additional named graphs in it.
>>
>> I don't want a situation where a text/turtle graph at
>> http://foo.com/data.ttl might imply some facts about a graph with the
>> URI http://bar.com/data.ttl, it's hard to know what you should do  
>> about
>> that.
>>
>> If the file is TriG (or similar), then you know it can contain named
>> graphs, and handle it differently - w.r.t. permissions and so on.
>
> I was more thinking of allowing something like
>
> <s> <p> <o> <g> .

That has the same issues. It's not the syntax, it's the maybe named  
graphs, maybe not thing.

- Steve

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