Re: Requirements for a possible "RDF 2.0"

Dear Chris and all listers,

The question we should be asking ourselves before we refine standards such as RDF, is where do we want to go from here?

The semantic web or for die hards the linked data world to most of us exists in the confines of the cyberspace we all know as the Internet.

Let me suggest some lateral thinking and some reflection on what constitutes the world of linked data on the internet and where the actual boundaries of the connected cyberspace are to be found.

Technology Assessment, a much dreaded term hailing from the systems engineering field can yield some useful insights.

Go to and search the projects database for "semantic web". It will yield EXACTLY one result: 'Social Construction of Knowledge Networks", performed by the Rathenau Institute in the Netherlands (formerly known as NOTA, the Dutch National Technology Assessment Agency).

Or just jump to page:

The summary should be very enlightening and we recommend you get a copy of the report.

After reading this report, let us then resume the discussion where we want to go with the semantic web, or web of linked data and what RDF, the new version should look like.

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--- On Wed, 1/13/10, Chris Welty <> wrote:

From: Chris Welty <>
Subject: Requirements for a possible "RDF 2.0"
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:00 PM

Without volunteering myself to be such a contact, I have (as both a users of many RDF implementations and a W3C chair and I suppose a self-declared semantic web expert) been the recipient of a lot of complaints and suggestions regarding the design and implementation of RDF, and at ISWC a few months ago I suggested to Ivan that we start discussing starting a working group that would investigate a next version of RDF.

This discussion is happening in several places already, and we thought this was the best place to house that discussion for now.

A workshop on this subject is also in the planning, more news on that in a week or two.

I suppose we don't really need to discuss whether we should investigate an "RDF 2.0", but rather what kinds of requirements various RDF users have that they would like to be considered (I'd like this thread to be less "+1" and "-1" messages, and more "I'd like to see RDF support x...")


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