- From: T.Heath <T.Heath@open.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:03:53 -0000
- To: <emmanuelle@sidar.org>, <editor@content-wire.com>, "SW-forum Web" <semantic-web@w3.org>
Hi Emmanuelle, I understand and share your apparent frustration, but please don't "tar us all with the same brush" [1] :) There are many people working in the Semantic Web field who care deeply about understanding, and catering to, the needs of human users (yes, you and I agree, humans are the Semantic Web's ultimate target audience). Last year's SWUI workshop at ISWC [2] and the next in the series [3] at CHI2008 are good indicators of this commitment. Sadly, and despite this, the human agenda doesn't always get the recognition it deserves in the community. Some additional initiatives in this area would be a great idea I think :) Cheers, Tom. [1] http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/tar+with+the+same+brush [2] http://swui.semanticweb.org/swui06/ [3] http://swui.semanticweb.org/SWUI2008CHI/ -----Original Message----- From: semantic-web-request@w3.org on behalf of Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo Sent: Wed 07/11/2007 12:27 PM To: editor@content-wire.com; 'SW-forum Web' Subject: RE: User testing for semantic applicatons Hi "PDM", I agree with you. There are a lot of work around the "semantic web" and maybe is a good work for the "machines". But I can't understand why the people working on it don't care about accessibility. The semantic web is nothing if can't be useful for the humans. Accessibility means usability for all. So, I think that complain with the WCAG must be *prerequisite* for each semantic web application. Best regards, Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo Fundación Sidar Coordinadora del SIDAR www.sidar.org Email: coordina@sidar.org Tel.: +34 - 91 725 71 47 _____ De: semantic-web-request@w3.org [mailto:semantic-web-request@w3.org] En nombre de editor@content-wire.com Enviado el: miércoles, 07 de noviembre de 2007 11:40 Para: SW-forum Web Asunto: User testing for semantic applicatons I must say something There are a lot of cool applications coming up, I try most of them , but they are new I am not sure what to expect exactly. What should it do? How do I know if there is an error, or if this is really the way it should look? Little documentation, usability almost not taken into account etc. Also I dont have all day, just a few minutes, a few clicks, then I lose interest, must move on Now, the linked data below is quite straighforward intuitive interface (not bad in fact) although a few more explanations and how to's would be good. I also got an error when I tried it (different from the error below) not sure what to do next All this to suggest a forum is created to handle usability of semantic applications, where we 'users' can report our experiences and get some help in running/understanding the stuffs. I have a lot of feedback and user tests already running on semantic applications, may be most productive if handled collectively and shared, rather than just sent to the developers who are likely not to understand my problem anyway (we seem to speak different languages) thoughts? cheers PDM ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Berners-Lee <mailto:timbl@w3.org> To: Hugh Glaser <mailto:hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Cc: Linking Open Data <mailto:linking-open-data@simile.mit.edu> ; SW-forum Web <mailto:semantic-web@w3.org> ; Ian <mailto:icm@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Millard Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Linked Data available Umm ,,, in http://nsf.rkbexplorer.com/data/person-6092a2a72319fc9437583fb2d04733ea I get Request for http://nsf.rkbexplorer.com/data/person-6092a2a72319fc9437583fb2d04733eaabout under the hood Label Request for http://nsf.rkbexplorer.com/data/person-6092a2a72319fc9437583fb2d04733ea Status 200 StatusText OK Accept-ranges bytes Connection close Content-length 2005 Content type text/xml Date Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:27:37 GMT Etag "7785ba-7d5-43e4bd0f48e00" Last-modified Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:27:36 GMT Server Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) Handler opt off expandfetchSourceFetcher.XMLHandler Something funny about the XML: Line 2: doctype broken. 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