XProc Minutes 29 Jan 2014

See http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-minutes

[1]W3C

                                   - DRAFT -

                            XML Processing Model WG

29 Jan 2014

   [2]Agenda

   See also: [3]IRC log

Attendees

   Present
           Norm, Henry, Alex, Jim

   Regrets

   Chair
           Norm

   Scribe
           Norm

Contents

     * [4]Topics

         1. [5]Accept this agenda?
         2. [6]Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
         3. [7]Next meeting: 5 Feb 2014.
         4. [8]Open actions
         5. [9]Face-to-face planning
         6. [10]Rechartering planning
         7. [11]Progress on 1.0 bugs
         8. [12]Progress on step libraries
         9. [13]Any other business?

     * [14]Summary of Action Items

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  Accept this agenda?

   -> [15]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-agenda

   Accepted.

  Accept minutes from the previous meeting?

   -> [16]http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes

   Accepted.

  Next meeting: 5 Feb 2014.

   No regrets heard

  Open actions

   Jim: I've got the scxml review ready; where should I send it?

   Norm: Send it to the WG list.

  Face-to-face planning

   Norm: Jim wants to participate remotely.

   Henry: I'll try to borrow a high-end conference phone for the meeting.

   Norm: Thank you, Henry

   ACTION A-241-01: Henry to see about borrowing a quality conference phone
   for the face-to-face

   Henry: I noted an email somewhere about a request for an XProc status
   report at the eXist pre-conference
   ... No, I was mistaken. It wasn't a request.
   ... It was a link to a presentation at Stylus Studio.

   Jim: I have a pending pull request to eXist to update the Calabash
   implementation.

   Alex: I see Jim is on the pre-conference agenda now, I don't think he was
   there yesterday.

   <ht>
   [17]http://www.stylusstudio.com/XML-Editor-Blog/2014/01/15/XML-Pipelines-Presentation.aspx

   Jim: What's the agenda?

   Norm: I think we should begin to look at technical solutions for the
   requirements.

   Norm: In advance of a rechartering, that's a little risky, but if nothing
   else it's an exploration of the requirements.

   Alex: I've made dinner reservations for us on Wednesday night, 19 Feb, at
   7:30p.

  Rechartering planning

   Norm: The thrust here is: no more XPP

   See:
   [18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-processing-model-wg/2014Jan/0020.html

   <jf_2013> +1 to that

   <ht> Silence gives consent

   No objections heard.

   Norm: If we're not carrying XPP forward, I think we should wrap it up and
   publish it as a note.

   <jf_2013> +1

   <jf_2013> to publishing as a note

   Alex: Do we need to do anything?

   Henry: I think I've done the important ones. The only question is, should
   we take the pictures and discussion about validation back out?

   Norm: Why?

   Henry: It's had no review.

   Norm: I think we can leave it in.

   Jim: For what it's worth, I found the flowcharts useful.

   ACTION A-240-02: Package up the current XPP document as a Note and request
   publication.

   Norm: I'll touch base with Liam and drop the open actions related to XPP
   except for that one.

  Progress on 1.0 bugs

   Norm: We've received some community pushback on resolving 1.0 bugs. I did
   a couple.

   ->
   [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-processing-model-wg/2014Jan/0009.html

   Norm attempts to explain.

   Henry: I think I prefer caching, but we can't do that as an erratum, it
   has to go in V2.

   Norm: I suppose as an erratum, we have to say the document-uri property is
   empty.

   Henry: My inclination is to simply publish an erratum that says there's a
   bug here; that the spec is underspecified; it's defacto implementation
   dependent in V1; we'll fix it in V2.

   Norm: I'm happy with that.

   Norm mumbles on about what XML Calabash does

   <jf_2013> I thnk your response was valid, there does seem to be some
   interesting corner cases with pitfalls lurking

   <jf_2013> which may indicate deeper investigation

   Norm: I propose we take Henry's suggestion; document the bug, explain that
   it's probably too large a change to make as an erratum and assert that
   it's implementation dependent

   <jf_2013> +1

   Accepted.

   Alex: How are we tracking these in V2?

   Norm: I just wrote it in a buffer. I'll work on figuring out how to track
   them; perhaps at github

   ACTION A-241-03: Norm to ask Liam about using github

   <jf_2013> +1 to using git/github

   ->
   [20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-processing-model-wg/2014Jan/0011.html

   Norm: Bug 21001

   <jf_2013> +1 looks good to me as well

   Alex: Looks good to me.

   Henry: Yep.

   ACTION A-241-04: Norm to construct an actual errata document with these
   two errata in it

   <alexmilowski> BTW, document-uri() comes from the XDM from the document
   node ancestor if it exists.

   <alexmilowski> So, by default it returns whatever that property contains.

  Progress on step libraries

   Jim reports no progress on zip and unzip

   Norm reports no progress on the file and system utility libraries

   Norm mutters a bit about his semantic web step experiments

   ACTION A-241-04 Alex to describe use cases for RDF support that require
   the ability to go back and forth from the triples to the documents.

   Jim: What part of our requirements does RDF come under?

   Norm: I don't think it's a requirement per se, but building step libraries
   is valuable.

  Any other business?

   None heard

Summary of Action Items

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References

   1. http://www.w3.org/
   2. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-agenda
   3. http://www.w3.org/2014/01/29-xproc-irc
   4. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-minutes#agenda
   5. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-minutes#item01
   6. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-minutes#item02
   7. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-minutes#item03
   8. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-minutes#item04
   9. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-minutes#item05
  10. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-minutes#item06
  11. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-minutes#item07
  12. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-minutes#item08
  13. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-minutes#item09
  14. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-minutes#ActionSummary
  15. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2014/01/29-agenda
  16. http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2013/12/11-minutes
  17. http://www.stylusstudio.com/XML-Editor-Blog/2014/01/15/XML-Pipelines-Presentation.aspx
  18. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-processing-model-wg/2014Jan/0020.html
  19. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-processing-model-wg/2014Jan/0009.html
  20. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-processing-model-wg/2014Jan/0011.html
  21. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
  22. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/

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