- From: Norman Walsh <Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM>
- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:21:06 -0500
- To: public-xml-core-wg@w3.org
- Message-ID: <87wtw31kq5.fsf@nwalsh.com>
We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday, December 01, from 08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka 11:00-12:00 Eastern time aka 16:00-17:00 UTC 16:00-17:00 in Ireland and the UK 17:00-18:00 in middle (most of) Europe on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#. We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 . See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents and other information. If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon. Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it at the beginning of the call. Paul sends regrets; Norm will chair. Agenda ====== 1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments, or corrections ready by the beginning of the call). 1.5. Miscellaneous administrivia. The next W3C Technical Plenary Week will be 28 February 2005 through 4 March 2005: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/TPOverview.html ACTION: Norm to coordinate a liason. Drop XML Profile? 2. XForms WG Note on xml-stylesheet and XForms. See the draft Working Group Note at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Group/Drafts/stylesheet-pi See the thread starting at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2004OctDec/0022 especially Norm's message at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2004OctDec/0030 See also JohnC's comments at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Nov/0037 where he argues it is reasonable to treat this as a stylesheet and raises the issue on how to recognize things via the MIME type. Arnaud would like to know more about the motivation and why they are using the xml-stylesheet PI instead of something else. Paul requested further info from the Forms WG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2004OctDec/0138 No response as of this Agenda writing; Paul just pinged again: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2004OctDec/0172 Richard initially agreed with Norm's comment, but now he feels that what JohnC said makes some sense. We need to discuss more with at least Richard, Norm, JohnC on the call. Any progress? 3. XLink update. Norm posted a draft[10] with diff[11]; there has been some discussion[12]. 4. XML errata. The published 1.0 errata document is [8], the published 1.1 errata document is [9], and the NEW PUBLIC Potential Errata (PE) document is [7]. We have several new PEs we might consider. 5. Namespaces in XML. Ongoing ACTION to Richard: Produce a draft for NS1.0 2nd Ed. Makoto thinks we should fold all our errata into an NS1.0 2nd Ed, but we should not fold in our other editorial changes from 1.1 into 1.0 2nd Ed. He sent his comments at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-names-editor/2004Nov/0004 wherein he objected to our folding editorial changes that were not processed as errata back from 1.1 into 1.0. Paul checked with W3C folks about whether we can fold editorial errata from 1.1 back into 1.0 2nd Ed and our plan is acceptable: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Nov/0041 6. Xinclude PR was published Sept 30 at: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/PR-xinclude-20040930/ and announced to the AC at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2004JulSep/0043 The AC review closed October 29. We will shoot for a Dec 8th publication date (though that can only be tentative, since it depends on the Comm team). ACTION to Philippe: Work with W3T to prepare XInclude for Rec. ACTION to Paul: Update the WD for Rec (dates, status). Sandra has sent new test suite stuff to Henry. ACTION to Henry: Update the test suite home page with what Sandra sent to you. 7. xml:id. Our Last Call of xml:id is published at http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xml-id-20041109/ The (public) xml:id issues is at: http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/xml-id/wd-status/status-report.html [Not up to date as of the writing of this agenda, but all issues are closed.] ACTION to Norm: Update the xml:id issues document (though no immediate need this week). We also will need an issues list for the Last Call, though we don't need it until mid-December. Norm announced he had a sax filter implementation of xml:id: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Oct/0042 8. XML Profile. The TAG (via Norm) asks about progress on this: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Sep/0004 We last talked about this at the March 2004 f2f: http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/02/xml-f2f-20040301-minutes#profile Norm continues to recommend that we make a profile that is the same as XML 1.1 except to change the bnf so that you can't have any sort of doctype decl. Norm suggests we generate a WG Note outlining the subset. Glenn asks about how this might affect the idea of a compliant XML processor. Specifically, a processor that only processes this subset is not a compliant XML processor. SOAP also forbids PIs, but we believe they can live with a subset with PIs. ACTION to Norm: Send email summarizing his suggested plan (though the ACTION below to check with the TAG should probably come first). Norm started a TAG discussion at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2004Oct/0059 but reached no denouement. ACTION to Norm: Check with the TAG that this is something they still want to see worked on. The next step would seem to be to write a summary of the plan and send it out and see if it makes people happy. We should be sure to include at least the TAG, SOAP, the XML CG. [1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core [2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Nov/0056.html [7] http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/02/proposed-xml10-3e-and-xml11-errata.html [8] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V10-3e-errata [9] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V11-1e-errata [10] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xlink11/ [11] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/xmlcore/xlink11/diff.html [12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Nov/0057.html Be seeing you, norm -- Norman.Walsh@Sun.COM / XML Standards Architect / Sun Microsystems, Inc. NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.
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