Re: Agenda for XML Core WG telcon of 2004 November 17

Regrets.

Sandra
At 11:15 AM 11/15/2004, Paul Grosso wrote:

>We have an XML Core WG phone call scheduled for Wednesday,
>November 17, from
>           08:00-09:00 Pacific time aka
>           11:00-12:00 Eastern time aka
>           16:00-17:00 UTC
>           16:00-17:00 in Ireland and the UK
>           17:00-18:00 in middle (most of) Europe
>on the Zakim W3C Bridge, +1 617 761 6200, passcode 9652#.
>We also use IRC channel #xmlcore on irc.w3.org:6665 .
>
>See the XML Core group page [1] for pointers to current documents
>and other information.  If you have additions to the agenda, please
>email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.
>
>Please also review our group page's task list [2] for accuracy and
>completeness and be prepared to amend if necessary and accept it
>at the beginning of the call.
>
>Norm sends regrets (XML Conference).
>
>Agenda
>======
>1. Accepting the minutes from the last telcon [3] and
>    the current task status [2] (have any questions, comments,
>    or corrections ready by the beginning of the call).
>
>
>1.5. Miscellaneous administrivia.
>
>The next W3C Technical Plenary Week will be 28 February 2005
>through 4 March 2005:
>      http://www.w3.org/2002/09/TPOverview.html
>
>The meeting will be held in the Hyatt Harborside, Boston:
>      http://harborside.hyatt.com/property/index.jhtml
>
>
>2. XForms WG Note on xml-stylesheet and XForms.
>
>See the draft Working Group Note at
>http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/Group/Drafts/stylesheet-pi
>and also at
>http://www.w3.org/TR/stylesheet-pi/
>
>See the thread starting at
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2004OctDec/0022
>especially Norm's message at
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2004OctDec/0030
>
>Everyone on the call felt that use of the xml-stylesheet
>here was wrong.  We had some discussion.
>
>Most of us are certainly opposed to them using
>type="application/xml".
>
>Arnaud would like to know more about the motivation and
>why they are using the xml-stylesheet PI instead of
>something else.
>
>We noted that the XSLT spec says (last para before section 2):
>
>   The MIME media types text/xml and application/xml [RFC2376]
>   should be used for XSLT stylesheets.
>
>ACTION to Paul:  Request further info from the XForms WG.
>
>
>3.  XLink erratum/update.
>
>Norm has suggested a possible update to XLink at
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Nov/0033
>where we say that an element that has an xlink:href but
>does not have an xlink:type should be treated as if it
>had a "simple" link type.
>
>
>4. XML errata.  The published 1.0 errata document is [8], the
>    published 1.1 errata document is [9], and the NEW PUBLIC
>    Potential Errata (PE) document is [7].
>
>PE 133 CDATA sections, PIs and Comments in Mixed and ANY content models
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>CONSENSUS to approve and publish.
>ACTION to Francois:  Update PE and Errata documents for PE 133.
>
>PE 134 Non-ascii chars in XML/text declaration
>----------------------------------------------
>The xml-editor list received a comment at
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2004OctDec/0003
>which is presumably asking the same question asked earlier at
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-editor/2003OctDec/0048
>and which the commenter claims we never answered satisfactorily.
>
>There is an updated proposed resolution at
>http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/02/proposed-xml10-3e-and-xml11-errata#PE134
>and this is in countdown until this week's telcon.
>
>
>PE132 Validity of default attribute values (again)
>--------------------------------------------------
>This comes down to the wording in section 3.3.2 where we say
>"only the syntactic constraints of the type are required here"
>but then we argued about what "syntactic" means.
>
>CONSENSUS:  It is a violation of the Attribute Default Legal VC
>for the default value not to be one of those specified in the
>enumerated list for enumerated type attributes.
>
>John proposed new language for "Validity constraint:
>Attribute Default Legal" to solve the ambiguity here at:
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Nov/0001
>and that is in countdown until this week's telcon.
>
>
>5. Namespaces in XML.
>
>   Ongoing ACTION to Richard:  Produce a draft for NS1.0 2nd Ed.
>
>Makoto thinks we should fold all our errata into an NS1.0 2nd Ed,
>but we should not fold in our other editorial changes from 1.1
>into 1.0 2nd Ed.  He sent his comments at
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/xml-names-editor/2004Nov/0004
>wherein he objected to our folding editorial changes that were not
>processed as errata back from 1.1 into 1.0.
>
>ACTION to Paul:  Check with W3C folks about whether we can
>fold editorial errata from 1.1 back into 1.0 2nd Ed.
>
>
>6. Xinclude PR was published Sept 30 at:
>    http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/PR-xinclude-20040930/
>    and announced to the AC at
>    http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2004JulSep/0043
>
>    The AC review closed October 29.
>
>Henry now needs to organize a Rec call in the next week
>or so.  He thinks the call should be mostly just a formality.
>
>ACTION to Henry:  Take XInclude to Rec.
>
>Sandra has sent new test suite stuff to Henry.
>
>ACTION to Henry:  Update the test suite home page with what
>Sandra sent to you.
>
>
>7. xml:id.
>
>Our Last Call of xml:id is published at
>http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/WD-xml-id-20041109/
>
>The (public) xml:id issues is at:
>http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/xml-id/wd-status/status-report.html
>[Not up to date as of the writing of this agenda, but
>all issues are closed.]
>
>ACTION to Norm:  Update the xml:id issues document (though no
>immediate need this week).
>
>Norm announced he had a sax filter implementation of xml:id:
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Oct/0042
>
>
>8.  XML Profile.  The TAG (via Norm) asks about progress on this:
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Sep/0004
>
>We last talked about this at the March 2004 f2f:
>http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/2004/02/xml-f2f-20040301-minutes#profile
>
>Norm continues to recommend that we make a profile that is the
>same as XML 1.1 except to change the bnf so that you can't have
>any sort of doctype decl.
>
>Norm suggests we generate a WG Note outlining the subset.
>
>Glenn asks about how this might affect the idea of a
>compliant XML processor.  Specifically, a processor that
>only processes this subset is not a compliant XML processor.
>
>SOAP also forbids PIs, but we believe they can live with a
>subset with PIs.
>
>ACTION to Norm:  Send email summarizing his suggested plan
>(though the ACTION below to check with the TAG should probably
>come first).
>
>Norm started a TAG discussion at
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/tag/2004Oct/0059
>but reached no denouement.
>
>ACTION to Norm:  Check with the TAG that this is something
>they still want to see worked on.
>
>The next step would seem to be to write a summary of the
>plan and send it out and see if it makes people happy.
>We should be sure to include at least the TAG, SOAP, the
>XML CG.
>
>
>[1] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core
>[2] http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/Core#tasks
>[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xml-core-wg/2004Nov/0032
>[7]
>http://www.w3.org/XML/2004/02/proposed-xml10-3e-and-xml11-errata.html
>[8] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V10-3e-errata
>[9] http://www.w3.org/XML/xml-V11-1e-errata

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