Re: how dirty can the HTML be, and still be RDFa?

On 11/25/11 2:26 PM, Henry Story wrote:
> On 25 Nov 2011, at 20:05, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>
>> On 11/25/11 1:55 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>> Next, I am going to test (X)HTML+RDFa.
>> New blog post re. the above:
>>
>> Permalink: http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2011/11/webid-details-via-xhtmlrdfa.html
> Kingsley, can you try to stick with the current spec?
> What you have just produced in both cases is the old way of writing things. Peter did it very well in his first attempt by using the template we have put up there
>
> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/spec/#rdfa-html-notation
>
> I am just transforming all the services I have developed to only accept what is in the spec, which you voted for recently yourself.
>
> Henry

Henry,

Generator updated, and here are two examples of WebID publications using 
html+microdata and (x)html+rdfa .

(X)HTML+RDFa:

<div 
about="http://id.myopenlink.net/about/id/entity/http/graph.facebook.com/kidehen" 
typeof="foaf:Person" xmlns:cert="http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#"
     xmlns:foaf="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/" 
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#">
<h2>My RSA Public Keys</h2>
<div rel="cert:key">
<div typeof="cert:RSAPublicKey">
<dl>
<dt>Modulus (hexadecimal)</dt>
<dd property="cert:modulus" datatype="xsd:hexBinary">
     e10aab5c72781f60eb8955b2ea903319c199edd2201842e0840d43048bf018cc92b160
     fedb3af19a58f193d4a4dc22ea01ecaff1ced0e1d612670daacd6743474b00ca3305ce
     2be6ebbd911d15137278d8ccc3455ef9478134ee5e292b6498c0d74c1fa240bca71175
     1674d8067b9984a0a3c98bdf9a0fb967f32ef1d59bad6d76e2d98b6ec4193db239ada7
     c893fe479f59bf574f34a042e69fb3bd2536f1b730446ffc70806949daf6294ba35ccc
     d1b72bef08d3604a8daff1df2a8e53af9468d92bdd0a9a52574cafdec1630174057b31
     fe8a6dffa7bcbcf24862f0ec9611c6a2e7bd66459d6e9e41d3775fa7851cd20d594309
     0b3fea44545e5abba4aa69
</dd>
<dt>Exponent (decimal)</dt>
<dd property="cert:exponent" datatype="xsd:int">65537</dd>
</dl>
</div>
</div>
</div>


HTML+Microdata:

<div xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"
     xmlns:rdfs="http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#">
<div itemscope="" 
itemid="http://id.myopenlink.net/about/id/entity/http/graph.facebook.com/kidehen"
     itemtype="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person">
<div itemprop="http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#key" itemscope=""
         itemtype="http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#RSAPublicKey">
<div itemprop="http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#exponent">65537</div>
<div itemprop="http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#modulus">
       
e10aab5c72781f60eb8955b2ea903319c199edd2201842e0840d43048bf018cc92b160
     fedb3af19a58f193d4a4dc22ea01ecaff1ced0e1d612670daacd6743474b00ca3305ce
     2be6ebbd911d15137278d8ccc3455ef9478134ee5e292b6498c0d74c1fa240bca71175
     1674d8067b9984a0a3c98bdf9a0fb967f32ef1d59bad6d76e2d98b6ec4193db239ada7
     c893fe479f59bf574f34a042e69fb3bd2536f1b730446ffc70806949daf6294ba35ccc
     d1b72bef08d3604a8daff1df2a8e53af9468d92bdd0a9a52574cafdec1630174057b31
     fe8a6dffa7bcbcf24862f0ec9611c6a2e7bd66459d6e9e41d3775fa7851cd20d594309
     0b3fea44545e5abba4aa69
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>

Comment:

Bearing in mind that html+microdata usage and tools have achieved much 
more market penetration than (x)html+rdfa, what's the justification for 
not giving html+microdata and (x)html+rdfa equal billing as example 
representation syntaxes re. WebID?

Links:

1. 
http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2011/11/webid-publication-qa-xhtmlrdfa-based.html 
-- blogspot.com post re. (x)html+rdfa publication
2. 
http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2011/11/webid-publication-qa-htmlmicrodata.html 
-- ditto re. html+microdata .


Kingsley
>
>
>> Source:
>> <div
>> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
>> xmlns:cert="http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/cert#"
>> xmlns:rsa="http://www.w3.org/ns/auth/rsa#">  <dl typeof="rsa:RSAPublicKey">
>> <dt>WebId</dt>
>> <dd href="http://id.myopenlink.net/about/id/entity/http/twitter.com/kidehen" rel="cert:identity">
>>     http://id.myopenlink.net/about/id/entity/http/twitter.com/kidehen
>> </dd>
>> <dt>Modulus (hexadecimal)</dt>
>> <dd property="rsa:modulus" datatype="cert:hex">
>>     d0bbdd16b3322bfae8957f257b7a76870afa8852625c230652ef93f2ee29893564ade5
>>     b2caddd82ac3cafd6bca908a2fae42f2771c1072dd5bf67f9335779c03ddc33343707f
>>     1c0b6cc77c8f602a6686ec161700d8b0650d2d7fa4d7f6342c42749cda715c3755fee0
>>     e83a0e43b288a9749482e0507862b1cb41067c1d2d4de1bb420bf543f233fb70bf64e7
>>     4b44a6605491e0a65242286a1ada43ec4a9d8a2162bec15c8faf9759bd8e8d3571db2f
>>     01a09c7063567bc77fe27bb4d532de9d3aeb3619c03924b0b08810653d5c618a7d8d31
>>     a34534d9b2ce6b3ea6df993d00509b7b52a6124ae90c8073f0248bdd02c15e82b9a0de
>>     9a3df19788599be0ed2d3d
>> </dd>
>> <dt>Exponent (decimal)</dt>
>> <dd property="rsa:public_exponent" datatype="cert:int">65537</dd>
>> </dl>
>> </div>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kingsley Idehen	
>> Founder&   CEO
>> OpenLink Software
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OpenLink Software
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