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Re: why distinguish between simple and complex types? (issue 11): allowing internal and external ModelReferences on the same element

From: Amit Sheth @ LSDIS <@>
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 11:45:15 -0400
Message-ID: <4485A30B.2050102@cs.uga.edu>
To: public-ws-semann@w3.org

Jacek:

Here is a perspective on having both internal and external 
ModelReferences on the same element.

If there are more than one ModelReferences for an
element plus type (ComplexType/SimpleType), we need to be able to specifiy
which one applies (hence the ability to identify precedence).
[We need to allow redefinition/overwriting which is required when we 
need to have
semantic annotation of an element (ModelRef) wrt to more than one 
ontologies,
and redefinition/overwriting enables us to specify new annotation we wish to
apply.]

Each ModelReference may have corresponding
Schema Mapping. 
(b1) I suggest we consider adequacy of "latest annotation applies".
(b2) I do not believe we need to worry about mutual consistency between 
two ModelReferences on an element
     if they are wrt to different ontologies.
(b3) The issue of consistency is important with respect to all 
ModelReferences in a
WSDL wrt to any one ontology (ontology models the world and has KR rigor 
such as
consistency of ontological specification), but this will need to be 
handled by tools and developers.

Amit
=====

Kunal, 

do you have any specific scenario where precedence rules would be
useful? I feel that if the type says it is an Address, and the element
that uses the type says it is DeliveryAddress, both do apply, right? 
I don't really see how we could specify that DeliveryAddress applies
more.

If there is a conflict, like the type says it is a "Mammal" and the
element says it is a "Car", that would make an inconsistent (and
invalid) SAWSDL document, and I don't think we should hide this problem
by specifying that only Car applies for this particular use of what
elsewhere would be Mammal.

So in a nutshell, I don't think we need precedence or resolution rules
if we call inconsistent documents invalid.

Best regards,

Jacek

On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 17:25 -0400, Kunal Verma wrote:
> Finally, allowing annotations for both elements and complexTypes begs
> the question of which takes precedence when used together. As pointed
> out by Laurent in
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-semann/2006May/0043, the
> approach of giving the element annotation precedence over the type
> annotation seems like the way to go.
> 
> "If some internal annotation exists for a complex type as well, any
> "where used" annotation takes precedence over the internal one." 
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