- From: Ashok Malhotra <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>
- Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:10:16 -0700
- To: "Sverdlov, Yakov" <Yakov.Sverdlov@ca.com>, "Maryann Hondo" <mhondo@us.ibm.com>
- CC: "Monica J. Martin" <Monica.Martin@Sun.COM>, "public-ws-policy@w3.org" <public-ws-policy@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <20060927061016905.00000001216@amalhotr-pc>
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Let's use option 3 along with a pointer to the example. All the best, Ashok From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Sverdlov, Yakov Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 6:03 AM To: Maryann Hondo Cc: Ashok Malhotra; Monica J. Martin; public-ws-policy@w3.org Subject: RE: Suggested text to close Bug 3602 Maryann, I agree that the option 3 (with the Ashok' s pointer to an example) is better than option 1. Regards, Yakov Sverdlov CA From: Maryann Hondo [mailto:mhondo@us.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:50 AM To: Sverdlov, Yakov Cc: Ashok Malhotra; Monica J. Martin; public-ws-policy@w3.org Subject: RE: Suggested text to close Bug 3602 Yakov and Ashok. I think we're moving to consensus but I'd like you to consider this alternative text...... Maryann Option 3: When an assertion whose type is part of the policy's vocabulary is not included in a policy alternative, the policy alternative without the assertion type indicates that the assertion will not be applied in the context of the attached policy subject. Option 1 ( from below) "When an assertion whose type is part of the policy > vocabulary but is not included in a policy alternative, the > behavior indicated by that policy assertion is not applied to > a subject in that policy alternative" "Sverdlov, Yakov" <Yakov.Sverdlov@ca.com> 09/19/2006 01:23 PM To "Ashok Malhotra" <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>, "Monica J. Martin" <Monica.Martin@Sun.COM>, Maryann Hondo/Austin/IBM@IBMUS cc <public-ws-policy@w3.org> Subject RE: Suggested text to close Bug 3602 +1 to Ashok Thanks, Yakov -----Original Message----- From: Ashok Malhotra [mailto:ashok.malhotra@oracle.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:33 AM To: Sverdlov, Yakov; Monica J. Martin; mhondo@us.ibm.com Cc: public-ws-policy@w3.org Subject: RE: Suggested text to close Bug 3602 Yakov: I prefer option 1 because it makes it clear that the assertion should NOT be applied. We should also add a pointer here to an example such as the one I proposed at the f2f which would appear later in the document after optional and alternative has been defined. All the best, Ashok > -----Original Message----- > From: Sverdlov, Yakov [mailto:Yakov.Sverdlov@ca.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:25 AM > To: Monica J. Martin; Ashok Malhotra; mhondo@us.ibm.com > Cc: public-ws-policy@w3.org > Subject: RE: Suggested text to close Bug 3602 > > Action: > http://www.w3.org/2006/09/14-ws-policy-minutes.html#action01 > > I think in the spirit of the policy assertion definition, we > may consider referencing the behavior represented by the assertion. > > Modify the proposal in the email below from: > "When an assertion whose type is part of the policy > vocabulary but is not included in a policy alternative, the > provider does not apply that policy assertion in that policy > alternative." > > To: > Option 1: > "When an assertion whose type is part of the policy > vocabulary but is not included in a policy alternative, the > behavior indicated by that policy assertion is not applied to > a subject in that policy alternative" > > Option 2: > "When an assertion whose type is part of the policy > vocabulary but is not included in a policy alternative, the > behavior [of an entity] indicated by that policy assertion is > considered as undefined in that policy alternative" > > > Regards, > > Yakov Sverdlov > CA > > -----Original Message----- > From: public-ws-policy-request@w3.org > [mailto:public-ws-policy-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Monica J. Martin > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 11:49 AM > To: Ashok Malhotra > Cc: public-ws-policy@w3.org > Subject: Re: Suggested text to close Bug 3602 > Importance: High > > > > ><new text> > >For example, if there is a policy with an assertion marked with > "optional='true'" this puts the assertion in the vocabulary > of the policy. When this policy is normalized the assertion > appears in one alternative and not in the other. If the > alternative that does not include the assertion is chosen > then it is explicitly prohibited to apply the assertion as > the assertion is part of the policy vocabulary. > > > > > mm1: Ashok, where this text falls in the specification, it is > premature to discuss wsp:Optional, normalization and XML > representation. In addition, this text duplicates existing > material. We could revise the existing text in Section 3.2: > > Change from: An assertion whose type is part of the policy's > vocabulary but is not included in an alternative is explicitly > prohibited by the alternative. > Change to: When an assertion whose type is part of the policy > vocabulary but is not included in a policy alternative, > the provider > does not apply that policy assertion in that policy alternative. > > An option to consider rather than another example is to > reference further sections and include more detail in the > Guideline and/or Primer documents. Thanks. > > > > >
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