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Re: [wot] Doodle poll for the joint call with oneM2M? (was Re: [wot] minutes - 27 July 2016)

From: Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:05:24 +0900
Message-ID: <CAJ8iq9VW-imZYr7ksah=iW=o_ALcRwNvixV-07y2B_zzef5sdA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Public Web of Things IG <public-wot-ig@w3.org>, yingying@w3.org
Hi Group,

It's 2 weeks since we started the doodle poll to identify the
preferred date for the oneM2M joint call.

The preferred date/time is "Wed, 31 Aug. 8am EDT" (=usual IG call
time) according to the results at:
  http://doodle.com/poll/k4dmin4f45q6knvi
:)

Yingying, could you please get back to Yongjing and let him know
about this?

Thanks,

Kazuyuki



On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org> wrote:

> Hi group,
>
> Based on the discussion during the previous call on July 27th,
> I've created a Doodle poll to choose the date&time for the expected
> joint call with Yongjing Zhang from oneM2M.
>
> Please visit:
>   http://doodle.com/poll/k4dmin4f45q6knvi
> and let us know your preferred date&time.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kazuyuki
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:45 PM, Kazuyuki Ashimura <ashimura@w3.org>
> wrote:
>
>> available at:
>>   https://www.w3.org/2016/07/27-wot-minutes.html
>>
>> also as text below.
>>
>> Thanks a lot for taking notes, Daniel!
>>
>> Kazuyuki
>>
>> ---
>>    [1]W3C
>>
>>       [1] http://www.w3.org/
>>
>>                                - DRAFT -
>>
>>                                  WoT IG
>>
>> 27 Jul 2016
>>
>>    [2]Agenda
>>
>>       [2] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_
>> next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_27_July_2016
>>
>>    See also: [3]IRC log
>>
>>       [3] http://www.w3.org/2016/07/27-wot-irc
>>
>> Attendees
>>
>>    Present
>>           Kaz, Dave, Michael, Bowen, Daniel, Masato, Matthias,
>>           Johannes, Sebastian, Taki, Nan, Ryuichi, Katsuyoshi,
>>           Wonsuk, Yingying
>>
>>    Regrets
>>    Chair
>>           Matthias
>>
>>    Scribe
>>           dape
>>
>> Contents
>>
>>      * [4]Topics
>>          1. [5]Quick Updates
>>          2. [6]WG Charter
>>          3. [7]Beijing Recap
>>          4. [8]PlugFest Test Case Reports
>>          5. [9]IG Deliverables
>>          6. [10]TPAC@Lisbon
>>          7. [11]group discussion: ask participants to share
>>             information/slides which are presented @ conferences,
>>             etc
>>          8. [12]AOB
>>          9. [13]Next WebConf call
>>      * [14]Summary of Action Items
>>      * [15]Summary of Resolutions
>>      __________________________________________________________
>>
>>    <scribe> scribe: dape
>>
>>    <scribe> scribeNick: DP
>>
>>    <kaz> scribenick: dape
>>
>> Quick Updates
>>
>>    MK: asked Scott Jenson to join
>>    ... he can join already next week (last half an hour)
>>
>>    DR: restarting the group was approved by W3C
>>
>>    MK: Any changes we have to think of?
>>
>>    DR: no changes
>>
>> WG Charter
>>
>>    <kaz> [16]WG charter
>>
>>      [16] http://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-wg-2016.html
>>
>>    MK: beginning of week I incorporated remaining issues
>>    ... no open issues on github
>>    ... should we ask for the resolution now?
>>
>>    DR: Can share some procedure points
>>
>>    <mkovatsc>
>>    [17]http://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-wg-2016.html
>>
>>      [17] http://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-wg-2016.html
>>
>>    DR: W3C management might require some changes (eg. relation to
>>    other groups)
>>
>>    <mkovatsc> "wide range of scales from microcontrollers to
>>    cloud-based server farms"
>>
>>    DR: will let you know if this happens
>>
>>    MK: Last week Frank discussed microcontroller requirements
>>    ... charter states this already
>>    ... do we need more discussion on this?
>>
>>    DR: Not sure about Franks proposal
>>
>>    MK: Frank reported that we should put more focus on
>>    microcontroller requirements
>>
>>    <kaz> [ the current draft charter says "Servers can be provided
>>    at a wide range of scales from microcontrollers to cloud-based
>>    server farms." ]
>>
>>    MK: I think we have already a statement there which should be
>>    sufficient
>>
>>    DR: I agree with sticking to what we have
>>
>>    Kaz: Yes, it is already mentioned in the charter
>>
>>    MK: the technical level should not be covered in the charter
>>
>>    JH: writing minimum footprint in charter is not sensible.
>>    Charter is more about goal setting... supporting also
>>    microcontrollers
>>    ... would see this is covered in current charter
>>
>>    SK: Frank presented slides about microcontroller market (8 bit
>>    microcontroller et cetera)
>>    ... he was concerned that we don't address this properly
>>    ... I think W3C standardization does not propose a technical
>>    solutions
>>    ... there will be optimized libraries for microcontrollers
>>
>>    MK: Frank is not here.... do not hear concern... looks like
>>    people are happy with charter as is...
>>    ... microcontrollers are definitely in scope
>>    ... Do you agree that charter is ready for AC review?
>>
>>    All: no objections
>>
>>    RESOLUTION: IG believes current WG charter is ready for AC
>>    review
>>
>> Beijing Recap
>>
>>    <kaz> [18]Beijing minutes
>>
>>      [18] https://www.w3.org/2016/07/13-14-wot-minutes.html
>>
>>    MK: Last time issues with action items
>>
>>    Kaz: Should be fixed now
>>    ... please look at minutes which can be found at
>>    [19]https://www.w3.org/2016/07/13-14-wot-minutes.html
>>    ... right in the beginning you will find action itmes
>>
>>      [19] https://www.w3.org/2016/07/13-14-wot-minutes.html
>>
>>    Kaz goes over action items
>>
>>    <yingying_>
>>    [20]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-ig/2016Jul/
>>    0006.html
>>
>>      [20] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-ig/2016Jul/
>> 0006.html
>>
>>    YY: we would like to have a joint oneM2M meeting
>>    ... we need to agree on date
>>    ... the proposed dates are: Aug 31 or Sep 7.
>>    ... suggest to have dedicated meeting
>>
>>    MK: Extra slot before or after normal call?
>>
>>    YY: We can decide... just the days were proposed
>>
>>    MK: for me Aug 31 would work
>>
>>    JH: Could setup a poll (doodle) ?
>>
>>    Kaz: yes, can use doodle
>>    ... can setup doodle, before and after slot
>>    ... talked to SCXML editor
>>    ... can join our call (about 10 minutes talk)
>>    ... next week?
>>
>>    MK: in the beginning would be ok?
>>
>>    SK: action of (Dave and Sebastian) to investigate on the
>>    Optimized JSON Schema no progress yet
>>
>>    MK: can plugin updates to proposal folder on github
>>
>>    SK: can share some updates within 2-3 weeks
>>
>>    DP: Did send email about " to check directly with the
>>    implementers and see who have participated in the PlugFests so
>>    far"
>>    ... got feedback: online plugfest would be good!
>>
>>    MK: propose to extend template by Taki to know what people
>>    would have available...
>>
>>    <mkovatsc>
>>    [21]https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFests_-_Template_for_Plu
>>    gFest_description
>>
>>      [21] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFests_-_Template_for_
>> PlugFest_description
>>
>>    Kaz: action by Taki "to generate a template of PlugFest
>>    description" is done?
>>
>>    MK: Yes... first draft
>>
>>    TK: there are 2 descriptions
>>    ... first we need collection unit description
>>    ... as part of this (picture, hardware, platform, WoT
>>    functions, ..)
>>    ... every participant describes the "Unit Description" part
>>    ... second we have scenario description
>>    ... think we had 3 scenarios... by linking to unit description
>>    ... that is a first proposal for the template
>>
>>    MK: Thanks!
>>    ... propose to de-couple unit from scenario description
>>
>>    TK: Agree
>>
>>    MK: Do you as participant miss anything? can you fill this out?
>>
>>    SK: looks good to me
>>
>>    JH: Yes, ok
>>
>>    MK: picture could be also logo
>>    ... change "Description of what the scripts does" to
>>    application logic ... without scripting
>>
>>    TK: good point...
>>
>>    MK: I am editing the page
>>
>>    DP: split Unit and Scenario description... two pages?
>>
>>    <kaz> ACTION: sebastian to take care of the scenario
>>    description [recorded in
>>    [22]http://www.w3.org/2016/07/27-wot-minutes.html#action01]
>>
>>      [22] http://www.w3.org/2016/07/27-wot-minutes.html#action01]
>>
>>    <trackbot> 'sebastian' is an ambiguous username. Please try a
>>    different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g.,
>>    sha, skbisch).
>>
>>    MK: propose individuals provide unit description... and one
>>    builds the scenario description
>>
>>    SK: can take care of Scenario description
>>
>>    Kaz: format or style... do we use wiki?
>>
>>    MK: seemed convenient... might work in future on a better
>>    visualization
>>    ... should start working on PlugFest templates soon..
>>
>> PlugFest Test Case Reports
>>
>>    <mkovatsc>
>>    [23]https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2016-beijin
>>    g/TestCaseCoverage.xlsx?raw=true
>>
>>      [23] https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2016-
>> beijing/TestCaseCoverage.xlsx?raw=true
>>
>>    MK: please fill out PlugFest Test Case Reports soon
>>    ... send to mailing list or directly to me
>>    ... any remaining issues from Beijing?
>>
>>    DR: We should work on blog post
>>
>>    MK: DP started working on it
>>
>>    DR: timeline?
>>
>>    MK: planned for end of week
>>    ... Dave, would you be interested in supporting
>>
>>    DR: Yes, but will be busy next days
>>
>>    MK: Test wordpress draft or as fallback Google doc
>>
>> IG Deliverables
>>
>>    <kaz> [24]roadmap
>>
>>      [24] https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Roadmap
>>
>>    MK: planned releases
>>    ... please have a look again..
>>    ... raise concerns/issues
>>
>>    <kaz> [25]use cases and requirements
>>
>>      [25] http://w3c.github.io/wot/wot-ucr.html
>>
>>    MK: assigned editors... use-cases and requirements (Johannes)
>>
>>    JH: last addition was month ago..
>>    ... don't think there are any additions
>>    ... any contributor?
>>    ... propose publishing
>>
>>    MK: Kaz can you check with Johannes about style and such
>>
>>    Kaz: yes
>>
>>    MK: new use-cases will lead updated versions... no final
>>    document
>>
>>    <kaz> [26]tech landscape
>>
>>      [26] https://w3c.github.io/wot/landscape.html
>>
>>    MK: next document is tech-landscape from Soumya
>>    ... Soumya was hard to grasp recently
>>    ... anyone talked to him?
>>
>>    (none)
>>
>>    MK: Someone volunteering to finish up the document?
>>
>>    Kaz: will contact Soumya first
>>
>>    MK: Yes, will also reach out on mailing list for another
>>    editor...
>>
>>    <kaz> [27]architecture
>>
>>      [27] http://w3c.github.io/wot/architecture/wot-architecture.html
>>
>>    MK: architecture document is very active.. which is very good
>>    ... have one comment.. will send in PR
>>
>>    <kaz> [28]current practices
>>
>>      [28] http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html
>>
>>    MK: current practices can be frozen..
>>
>>    <mkovatsc> trying to fix audio
>>
>>    MK: Beijing release is frozen..
>>    ... it is a living document tough
>>
>>    Kaz: can publish IG notes every 3 months
>>
>>    MK: Okay.. will publish Beijing version and start working on
>>    Lisbon
>>
>>    Kaz: once draft documents are fixed, we will talk about
>>    publication again, right?
>>
>>    MK: will try to fix the document by next week
>>
>>    JH: should be able to do the same
>>
>> TPAC@Lisbon
>>
>>    MK: Will be a Demo room available on Wednesday?
>>
>>    Kaz: talked to planning team
>>    ... wondering about size of room
>>    ... bigger rooms are already booked
>>
>>    MK: Mhh, nots ure
>>
>>    Kaz: mid-size room in Beijing?
>>
>>    MK: even smaller is OK..
>>
>>    Kaz: 20 people room?
>>
>>    MK: sounds good to me
>>
>>    Kaz: difficult to get dedicated room for demo preparation for
>>    whole week
>>
>>    MK: Early the day or the day before might be also ok
>>
>>    Kaz: let's have more internal discussions before contacting
>>    TPAC team again
>>
>>    MK: PlugFest: task overview of the participants?
>>
>>    DP: think it was about "how" to introduce the demo
>>
>>    MK: When do participants plan to work on Plugfest?
>>
>>    Naka: started to work on explanation
>>
>>    DP: should we have a test-run before TPAC?
>>
>>    MK: Yes, if possible
>>
>> group discussion: ask participants to share information/slides which
>> are presented @ conferences, etc
>>
>>    MK: I added "getting started" on github
>>    ... can create "infomaterial" folder?
>>    ... who else has material?
>>
>>    DR: I have some and linked them from our page
>>
>>    DP: move everything to this folder?
>>
>>    DR: Page with links fine also
>>
>>    MK: Having a pool for figures... editable PPTs et cetera would
>>    be good instead of fixed PDFs
>>
>>    Kaz: shall we create wiki page for this purpose
>>
>>    MK: versioning might be good
>>    ... will create "material" folder on github
>>    ... everyone is asked to support and share
>>
>> AOB
>>
>>    <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to remind all of the TPAC registration
>>    :)
>>
>>    <kaz> [29]TPAC registration site
>>
>>      [29] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2016/?login
>>
>>    Kaz: I would like remind you to register for TPAC
>>
>>    DR: Can you send email?
>>
>>    Kaz: will do
>>
>>    <yingying_> [30]flyer creation timeline
>>
>>      [30] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-comms/
>> 2016Jul/0004.html
>>
>>    YY: one point about flyers
>>    ... very limited time
>>
>>    MK: Can you send draft top mailinglist
>>
>>    YY: Dave wanted to review it first?
>>
>>    DR: Suggest share pointer now,
>>
>>    [31]https://www.w3.org/Member/wiki/WoT/Flyers
>>
>>      [31] https://www.w3.org/Member/wiki/WoT/Flyers
>>
>>    YY: will send email also
>>
>>    MK: no real flyer yet
>>
>>    YY: Yes, just content for now
>>    ... Karen's feedback and layout next
>>    ... printing and shipping is costly
>>
>>    DP: printing in Europe might be another choice
>>
>>    MK: Was there a deadline?
>>
>>    YY: yes, 2 weeks
>>
>> Next WebConf call
>>
>>    MK: state chart xml intro
>>    ... Scott Jenson
>>
>>    DP: resolution of publishing documents could be another topic
>>
>>    MK: Yes
>>
>> Summary of Action Items
>>
>>    [NEW] ACTION: sebastian to take care of the scenario
>>    description [recorded in
>>    [32]http://www.w3.org/2016/07/27-wot-minutes.html#action01]
>>
>>      [32] http://www.w3.org/2016/07/27-wot-minutes.html#action01
>>
>> Summary of Resolutions
>>
>>     1. [33]IG believes current WG charter is ready for AC review
>>
>>    [End of minutes]
>>      __________________________________________________________
>>
>>
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Tel: +81 3 3516 2504
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