- From: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:31:44 -0500
- To: "Sandro Hawke" <sandro@w3.org>
- Cc: Bijan Parsia <bparsia@cs.man.ac.uk>, W3C OWL Chairs <team-owl-chairs@w3.org>, public-wiki-dev@w3.org, sysreq@w3.org
Looks pretty nice! Minor: The [] would normally be part of the link. Nicety: The footnote version uses a ^ to link back to the place that cited the reference. If OK by Bijan, it's good for me. -Alan On Nov 19, 2007, at 11:19 PM, Sandro Hawke wrote: > >> On Nov 19, 2007, at 5:24 AM, Bijan Parsia wrote: >> >>> >>> Sorry to be pesky today, but I'm wondering if it's possible to >>> enable footnote support: >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Footnotes >>> >>> (basically <ref>...</ref> and <references/>) >>> >>> I feel a pretty strong desire for them in: >>> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/OWL_Numerics >>> and they could be handy for linking to use cases or email that >>> support a feature. >>> >>> I can simulate them, of course, but I figured if it were an easy >>> toggle to flip, might as well ask! > > Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com> writes: >> >> +1 for footnotes. Needs an extension installed: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php > > There's more to this issue, which is why I haven't done it yet. I > dove > into it some week ago, got tangled in the weeds, and haven't made it > back. In the process of writing this, though, I guess I've sorted it > out. > > The problem with 'Cite' is that it supports only numeric referencing, > not "Harvard referencing". Wikipedia has some pages about this... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Harvard_referencing > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Footnotes > > I think Harvard referencing is the preferred approach for W3C... > > http://www.w3.org/2001/06/manual/#References > > and is certainly used in the OWL 1.0 specs. We could decide to switch > to numeric footnotes like 'Cite' offers, but we should not do so > lightly. > > I think what we want can be done with a pair of templates, which I > just > wrote, one for use in the text: > > {{ref|RFC-3987}} > > and the other for use in the Reference section: > > {{refdef|RFC-3987 > |<cite>[http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3987.txt RFC 3987 - > Internationalized Resource Identifiers (IRIs)]</cite>. M. Duerst, M. > Suignard. IETF, January 2005, http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3987.txt.}} > > Perhaps refdef could have various forms for various kind of citations; > that's not so important now. > > For an example of these template in use, see > http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Example_References > > Does that do what we want? Ideally, it could give errors if the > strings used in {{ref| ... }} didn't line up with those used in > refdef, > but ah well (some other tool can check for that). > > That said --- perhaps we still want numeric references for > academic-style references in non-spec documents? > > -- Sandro
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