- From: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:19:36 -0500
- To: Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com>
- Cc: Bijan Parsia <bparsia@cs.man.ac.uk>, W3C OWL Chairs <team-owl-chairs@w3.org>, public-wiki-dev@w3.org, sysreq@w3.org
> On Nov 19, 2007, at 5:24 AM, Bijan Parsia wrote: > > > > > Sorry to be pesky today, but I'm wondering if it's possible to > > enable footnote support: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Footnotes > > > > (basically <ref>...</ref> and <references/>) > > > > I feel a pretty strong desire for them in: > > http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/OWL_Numerics > > and they could be handy for linking to use cases or email that > > support a feature. > > > > I can simulate them, of course, but I figured if it were an easy > > toggle to flip, might as well ask! Alan Ruttenberg <alanruttenberg@gmail.com> writes: > > +1 for footnotes. Needs an extension installed: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite/Cite.php There's more to this issue, which is why I haven't done it yet. I dove into it some week ago, got tangled in the weeds, and haven't made it back. In the process of writing this, though, I guess I've sorted it out. The problem with 'Cite' is that it supports only numeric referencing, not "Harvard referencing". Wikipedia has some pages about this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Harvard_referencing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Footnotes I think Harvard referencing is the preferred approach for W3C... http://www.w3.org/2001/06/manual/#References and is certainly used in the OWL 1.0 specs. We could decide to switch to numeric footnotes like 'Cite' offers, but we should not do so lightly. I think what we want can be done with a pair of templates, which I just wrote, one for use in the text: {{ref|RFC-3987}} and the other for use in the Reference section: {{refdef|RFC-3987 |<cite>[http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3987.txt RFC 3987 - Internationalized Resource Identifiers (IRIs)]</cite>. M. Duerst, M. Suignard. IETF, January 2005, http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3987.txt.}} Perhaps refdef could have various forms for various kind of citations; that's not so important now. For an example of these template in use, see http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Example_References Does that do what we want? Ideally, it could give errors if the strings used in {{ref| ... }} didn't line up with those used in refdef, but ah well (some other tool can check for that). That said --- perhaps we still want numeric references for academic-style references in non-spec documents? -- Sandro
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