- From: Francesco Iovine <f.iovine@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 00:23:24 +0200
- To: Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com>
- Cc: Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com>, Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com>, Alex Komoroske <komoroske@google.com>, Julee <julee@adobe.com>, Andre Jay Meissner <ameissne@adobe.com>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>
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Well done Scott! For the post about the birthday party, feel free to use my picture of the cake if you don't have a better quality photo: https://twitter.com/franciov/status/389005249815801856 Ciao ;) Francesco <https://twitter.com/franciov> On 17 October 2013 00:09, Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com> wrote: > +1 > > > ---------------------------- > julee@adobe.com > @adobejulee > > From: Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com> > Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:00 PM > To: Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com> > Cc: Alex Komoroske <komoroske@google.com>, julee <julee@adobe.com>, Andre > Jay Meissner <ameissne@adobe.com>, WebPlatform Public List < > public-webplatform@w3.org>, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> > Subject: RE: Birthday blog post > > Thanks, Scott.**** > > ** ** > > So (trying to recap, here), Scott’s gotten feedback, which he can > incorporate if he chooses. With the exception of linking to or not linking > to people’s pages, the feedback was made up of suggestions, none of which > constituted a request to block the publication of the blog post. As far as > I can tell, everyone said looks good to me.**** > > ** ** > > Is that how others see where we are?**** > > ** ** > > Thanks,**** > > ** ** > > Eliot**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Scott Rowe [mailto:scottrowe@google.com <scottrowe@google.com>] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:55 PM > *To:* Eliot Graff > *Cc:* Alex Komoroske; Julee; Andre Jay Meissner; public-webplatform@w3.org; > PhistucK > *Subject:* Re: Birthday blog post**** > > ** ** > > Thanks to all who have commented in this thread. While it is lamentable > that we did not formulate and execute a press strategy for the birthday > announcement, such a strategy is quite separate from the considerations for > reporting the business of WPD in the blog. Also, the risk of "blowing" a > wider publicity opportunity by celebrating our anniversary in the blog is > not significant.**** > > ** ** > > Following the communication on the subject (that has been in circulation > on this e-mail list for the last month), here is what we have planned to do: > **** > > ** ** > > 1. The first post on the subject was the post announcing the doc sprint > [1], it effectively invites the community to the birthday party.**** > > ** ** > > 2. A birthday celebration post (the subject of this thread) that > recognizes and celebrates the efforts of the whole community over the last > year. **** > > ** ** > > 3. A birthday celebration post that chronicles the actual > birthday-party-slash-doc-sprint anticipated in the earlier blog > post [1] announcing the doc sprint.**** > > ** ** > > We are using the blog to celebrate the first anniversary with and for the > community through several perspectives, with a post for each. (You will > note that these posts have a common motif: the altered and repurposed > images of paintings by Dutch masters. Indeed, doing this is not only legal, > but it is actively encouraged and facilitated by the Rijksmuseum - but that > may be the subject of yet another blog post and certainly beyond the scope > of this discussion.)**** > > ** ** > > The first post was designed to pique interest and generate anticipation of > the birthday across the community.**** > > ** ** > > The second post celebrates the birthday for the community generally, and > those in the community specifically who made outstanding contributions to > WPD during the year. We would be remiss if we did not acknowledge their > contributions within the context of a birthday celebration. We may not be > able to serve them a piece of cake, but we can, and should, include them in > the celebration.**** > > ** ** > > The third post will report the results of the > birthday-party-slash-doc-sprint. It, too will say "Happy Birthday!" and > acknowledge the contributions of doc sprint participants. This one will > have the pictures of the cake, as well as the doctored images of paintings > by Dutch masters, and the compulsory shots of happy, productive doc sprint > participants.**** > > ** ** > > Note that the blog is largely us speaking to ourselves. It is not a press > release. Furthermore, with none of this communication are we in danger of > mis-communicating what is happening on WPD currently. Rather, we are > responsibly reporting the business of WPD, as the blog intends.**** > > ** ** > > If the stewards want to generate a public relations announcement, replete > with a communication strategy like that implemented last year at launch, > those interested in doing so should get busy now. There are only a few > weeks left in the month.**** > > ** ** > > To those of you who have responded with specific comments on the substance > of this post - credit where credit is due, clarifications, etc. - I thank > you and I will incorporate your comments.**** > > ** ** > > [1] > http://blog.webplatform.org/2013/09/web-platform-doc-sprint-amsterdam-october-12/ > **** > > ** ** > > Thanks!**** > > ~Scott**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com> > wrote:**** > > I understand Alex’s concern about wasting our press engagement; however, I > think that a blog post here is a good idea (with a few edits). **** > > **** > > We blog (somewhat) regularly about events and milestones. And the press > does not glom onto them as official press releases. If we do, indeed, lower > the fanfare a tad and keep this long one of two things will happen. The > press will either ignore it (most likely, given past behavior), or they > will notice it and fill copy with it. This is not a big announcement, nor > is there anything press worthy in it, with one exception: “Webplatform has > been live for a year. What have they done?” Not a big story. If they *do*want to run the story, though, this provides the background. We should > really make sure that at the end we say, “We will reach a milestone in the > next 60 days, one that we are proud of and one which we will announce on > the blog. Stay tuned….”**** > > **** > > Overall, I like the post. The litany of accomplishments is good, accurate, > and not overblown. The section headers could be toned down, but the > structure and flow are really nice. Great job, Scott!**** > > **** > > Consistency in the voice would be good, and switching to third person > would be best, IMHO. From:**** > > We’ve also developed a comprehensive CSS properties reference<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties> > .**** > > To**** > > The team developed a comprehensive CSS properties reference<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties> > .**** > > Etc.**** > > **** > > I’d love to be able to edit this, but I am really tied up today and > tomorrow with the release of IE11 and Windows 8.1.**** > > **** > > My 2 cents**** > > Eliot**** > > **** > > PS. One specific passage I had a question about was this one:**** > > **** > > Thanks to the invaluable efforts of Dave Gash<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/User:Dgash>, > Mike Sierra <http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/User:Sierra>, Lance Leonard<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/User:Lleonard>, > and many others, we reorganized the API Reference<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/apis>, > updating 9 imported documents and adding 13 new documents, in over 730 > pages. **** > > **** > > I’m not quite sure how to parse that.**** > > **** > > *From:* Alex Komoroske [mailto:komoroske@google.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:28 AM > *To:* Julee > *Cc:* Eliot Graff; Andre Jay Meissner; Scott Rowe; > public-webplatform@w3.org; PhistucK**** > > > *Subject:* Re: Birthday blog post**** > > **** > > I realize my earlier comments may not have been clear.**** > > **** > > My basic point boils down to: we get one free chance to engage tech press > for an announcement around our birthday. We're close to having something > meaty (CSS Properties), but we aren't there yet to have a big announcement. > A "year in review" that is not positioned to grab press attention (like > this post) is a *great *idea (and it's extremely well executed and > exhaustively researched by Scott--many props). I just want to be careful > about making this a "happy birthday" post that could *accidentally *engage > the press and blow our one-free-announcement card. **** > > **** > > Luckily, in my personal opinion it's easy to avoid accidental press pickup > by softening the "birthday" language, and by keeping it long and in depth > (so scratch that point in my earlier comments).**** > > **** > > --Alex (the guy who apparently loves parentheticals) Komoroske**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Julee <julee@adobe.com> wrote:**** > > Eliot:**** > > **** > > As the keeper of the blog, what do you think? We talked last Friday about > having a birthday post sooner rather than later, but I also see Alex's > point. Would you please weigh in?**** > > **** > > J**** > > ----------------------------**** > > julee@adobe.com**** > > @adobejulee**** > > **** > > *From: *Alex Komoroske <komoroske@google.com> > *Date: *Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:44 AM > *To: *PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> > *Cc: *Andre Jay Meissner <ameissne@adobe.com>, Scott Rowe < > scottrowe@google.com>, WebPlatform Public List <public-webplatform@w3.org> > *Subject: *Re: Birthday blog post**** > > **** > > Thanks for writing this up, Scott! Overall it's well written and gives a > lot of great shoutouts.**** > > **** > > A few high-level comments:**** > > - The post uses first person a few times, which seems a bit informal > for an Official Announcement on the Official Blog. (Although it's possible > I just have weird preferences--what do others think?)**** > - It's *looooooooong*. It's a great, in-depth overview of progress in > the past year, but it might be too much for a general audience to read > through.**** > - We had talked in the past about using the birthday timing for a more > concerted marketing push. That implies to me that we might want to > de-emphasize the one year birthday angle in this post so we can "save it" > for a bigger push. One way to do that is to keep this post comprehensive > (which is pretty inside baseball and won't be particularly interesting to > press), and play down the "OMG it's our birthday" angle just slightly in > the intro and title. Does that make sense? Is it a silly idea?**** > > I haven't had a chance to leave specific, low-level comments.**** > > **** > > --Alex**** > > **** > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:12 AM, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> wrote:**** > > Oh, now I see there are two mentions - please, remove both of them (one is > "Phistuk").**** > > **** > > Thank you for trying. ;)**** > > > **** > > **** > > ☆*PhistucK***** > > **** > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:07 PM, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> wrote:**** > > Please, remove my name from the post, I do not need any credit.**** > > (It was pointing to the wrong link anyway)**** > > > **** > > **** > > ☆*PhistucK***** > > **** > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Andre Jay Meissner <ameissne@adobe.com> > wrote:**** > > Great work Scott! Minor spelling fix (good old "Doc Sprint" FTW!), already > in. Wondered if we could add 2-3 more images, could just be a pic of the > great Amsterdam cake and maybe the Doc Sprint logo or so. Also thanks for > giving me good reason to finally pimp my user profile a bit! :)) *Jay**** > > **** > > **** > > *Von: *Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com> > *Datum: *KW 42 | Mittwoch, 16. Oktober 2013 01:29 > *An: *"public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org> > *Betreff: *Birthday blog post > *Neu gesendet von: *"public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org > > > *Neu gesendet am: *KW 42 | Mittwoch, 16. Oktober 2013 01:30**** > > **** > > Blog reviewers, please take a look at this draft: **** > > **** > > http://blog.webplatform.org/?p=729&preview=1&_ppp=9c032ed7ef**** > > **** > > Append your comments and suggestions to this thread.**** > > **** > > Thanks!**** > > ~Scott**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > ** ** > Francesco <https://twitter.com/franciov> On 17 October 2013 00:09, Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com> wrote: > +1 > > > ---------------------------- > julee@adobe.com > @adobejulee > > From: Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com> > Date: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:00 PM > To: Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com> > Cc: Alex Komoroske <komoroske@google.com>, julee <julee@adobe.com>, Andre > Jay Meissner <ameissne@adobe.com>, WebPlatform Public List < > public-webplatform@w3.org>, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> > Subject: RE: Birthday blog post > > Thanks, Scott.**** > > ** ** > > So (trying to recap, here), Scott’s gotten feedback, which he can > incorporate if he chooses. With the exception of linking to or not linking > to people’s pages, the feedback was made up of suggestions, none of which > constituted a request to block the publication of the blog post. As far as > I can tell, everyone said looks good to me.**** > > ** ** > > Is that how others see where we are?**** > > ** ** > > Thanks,**** > > ** ** > > Eliot**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Scott Rowe [mailto:scottrowe@google.com <scottrowe@google.com>] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:55 PM > *To:* Eliot Graff > *Cc:* Alex Komoroske; Julee; Andre Jay Meissner; public-webplatform@w3.org; > PhistucK > *Subject:* Re: Birthday blog post**** > > ** ** > > Thanks to all who have commented in this thread. While it is lamentable > that we did not formulate and execute a press strategy for the birthday > announcement, such a strategy is quite separate from the considerations for > reporting the business of WPD in the blog. Also, the risk of "blowing" a > wider publicity opportunity by celebrating our anniversary in the blog is > not significant.**** > > ** ** > > Following the communication on the subject (that has been in circulation > on this e-mail list for the last month), here is what we have planned to do: > **** > > ** ** > > 1. The first post on the subject was the post announcing the doc sprint > [1], it effectively invites the community to the birthday party.**** > > ** ** > > 2. A birthday celebration post (the subject of this thread) that > recognizes and celebrates the efforts of the whole community over the last > year. **** > > ** ** > > 3. A birthday celebration post that chronicles the actual > birthday-party-slash-doc-sprint anticipated in the earlier blog > post [1] announcing the doc sprint.**** > > ** ** > > We are using the blog to celebrate the first anniversary with and for the > community through several perspectives, with a post for each. (You will > note that these posts have a common motif: the altered and repurposed > images of paintings by Dutch masters. Indeed, doing this is not only legal, > but it is actively encouraged and facilitated by the Rijksmuseum - but that > may be the subject of yet another blog post and certainly beyond the scope > of this discussion.)**** > > ** ** > > The first post was designed to pique interest and generate anticipation of > the birthday across the community.**** > > ** ** > > The second post celebrates the birthday for the community generally, and > those in the community specifically who made outstanding contributions to > WPD during the year. We would be remiss if we did not acknowledge their > contributions within the context of a birthday celebration. We may not be > able to serve them a piece of cake, but we can, and should, include them in > the celebration.**** > > ** ** > > The third post will report the results of the > birthday-party-slash-doc-sprint. It, too will say "Happy Birthday!" and > acknowledge the contributions of doc sprint participants. This one will > have the pictures of the cake, as well as the doctored images of paintings > by Dutch masters, and the compulsory shots of happy, productive doc sprint > participants.**** > > ** ** > > Note that the blog is largely us speaking to ourselves. It is not a press > release. Furthermore, with none of this communication are we in danger of > mis-communicating what is happening on WPD currently. Rather, we are > responsibly reporting the business of WPD, as the blog intends.**** > > ** ** > > If the stewards want to generate a public relations announcement, replete > with a communication strategy like that implemented last year at launch, > those interested in doing so should get busy now. There are only a few > weeks left in the month.**** > > ** ** > > To those of you who have responded with specific comments on the substance > of this post - credit where credit is due, clarifications, etc. - I thank > you and I will incorporate your comments.**** > > ** ** > > [1] > http://blog.webplatform.org/2013/09/web-platform-doc-sprint-amsterdam-october-12/ > **** > > ** ** > > Thanks!**** > > ~Scott**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com> > wrote:**** > > I understand Alex’s concern about wasting our press engagement; however, I > think that a blog post here is a good idea (with a few edits). **** > > **** > > We blog (somewhat) regularly about events and milestones. And the press > does not glom onto them as official press releases. If we do, indeed, lower > the fanfare a tad and keep this long one of two things will happen. The > press will either ignore it (most likely, given past behavior), or they > will notice it and fill copy with it. This is not a big announcement, nor > is there anything press worthy in it, with one exception: “Webplatform has > been live for a year. What have they done?” Not a big story. If they *do*want to run the story, though, this provides the background. We should > really make sure that at the end we say, “We will reach a milestone in the > next 60 days, one that we are proud of and one which we will announce on > the blog. Stay tuned….”**** > > **** > > Overall, I like the post. The litany of accomplishments is good, accurate, > and not overblown. The section headers could be toned down, but the > structure and flow are really nice. Great job, Scott!**** > > **** > > Consistency in the voice would be good, and switching to third person > would be best, IMHO. From:**** > > We’ve also developed a comprehensive CSS properties reference<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties> > .**** > > To**** > > The team developed a comprehensive CSS properties reference<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties> > .**** > > Etc.**** > > **** > > I’d love to be able to edit this, but I am really tied up today and > tomorrow with the release of IE11 and Windows 8.1.**** > > **** > > My 2 cents**** > > Eliot**** > > **** > > PS. One specific passage I had a question about was this one:**** > > **** > > Thanks to the invaluable efforts of Dave Gash<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/User:Dgash>, > Mike Sierra <http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/User:Sierra>, Lance Leonard<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/User:Lleonard>, > and many others, we reorganized the API Reference<http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/apis>, > updating 9 imported documents and adding 13 new documents, in over 730 > pages. **** > > **** > > I’m not quite sure how to parse that.**** > > **** > > *From:* Alex Komoroske [mailto:komoroske@google.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:28 AM > *To:* Julee > *Cc:* Eliot Graff; Andre Jay Meissner; Scott Rowe; > public-webplatform@w3.org; PhistucK**** > > > *Subject:* Re: Birthday blog post**** > > **** > > I realize my earlier comments may not have been clear.**** > > **** > > My basic point boils down to: we get one free chance to engage tech press > for an announcement around our birthday. We're close to having something > meaty (CSS Properties), but we aren't there yet to have a big announcement. > A "year in review" that is not positioned to grab press attention (like > this post) is a *great *idea (and it's extremely well executed and > exhaustively researched by Scott--many props). I just want to be careful > about making this a "happy birthday" post that could *accidentally *engage > the press and blow our one-free-announcement card. **** > > **** > > Luckily, in my personal opinion it's easy to avoid accidental press pickup > by softening the "birthday" language, and by keeping it long and in depth > (so scratch that point in my earlier comments).**** > > **** > > --Alex (the guy who apparently loves parentheticals) Komoroske**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Julee <julee@adobe.com> wrote:**** > > Eliot:**** > > **** > > As the keeper of the blog, what do you think? We talked last Friday about > having a birthday post sooner rather than later, but I also see Alex's > point. Would you please weigh in?**** > > **** > > J**** > > ----------------------------**** > > julee@adobe.com**** > > @adobejulee**** > > **** > > *From: *Alex Komoroske <komoroske@google.com> > *Date: *Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:44 AM > *To: *PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> > *Cc: *Andre Jay Meissner <ameissne@adobe.com>, Scott Rowe < > scottrowe@google.com>, WebPlatform Public List <public-webplatform@w3.org> > *Subject: *Re: Birthday blog post**** > > **** > > Thanks for writing this up, Scott! Overall it's well written and gives a > lot of great shoutouts.**** > > **** > > A few high-level comments:**** > > - The post uses first person a few times, which seems a bit informal > for an Official Announcement on the Official Blog. (Although it's possible > I just have weird preferences--what do others think?)**** > - It's *looooooooong*. It's a great, in-depth overview of progress in > the past year, but it might be too much for a general audience to read > through.**** > - We had talked in the past about using the birthday timing for a more > concerted marketing push. That implies to me that we might want to > de-emphasize the one year birthday angle in this post so we can "save it" > for a bigger push. One way to do that is to keep this post comprehensive > (which is pretty inside baseball and won't be particularly interesting to > press), and play down the "OMG it's our birthday" angle just slightly in > the intro and title. Does that make sense? Is it a silly idea?**** > > I haven't had a chance to leave specific, low-level comments.**** > > **** > > --Alex**** > > **** > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:12 AM, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> wrote:**** > > Oh, now I see there are two mentions - please, remove both of them (one is > "Phistuk").**** > > **** > > Thank you for trying. ;)**** > > > **** > > **** > > ☆*PhistucK***** > > **** > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:07 PM, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> wrote:**** > > Please, remove my name from the post, I do not need any credit.**** > > (It was pointing to the wrong link anyway)**** > > > **** > > **** > > ☆*PhistucK***** > > **** > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Andre Jay Meissner <ameissne@adobe.com> > wrote:**** > > Great work Scott! Minor spelling fix (good old "Doc Sprint" FTW!), already > in. Wondered if we could add 2-3 more images, could just be a pic of the > great Amsterdam cake and maybe the Doc Sprint logo or so. Also thanks for > giving me good reason to finally pimp my user profile a bit! :)) *Jay**** > > **** > > **** > > *Von: *Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com> > *Datum: *KW 42 | Mittwoch, 16. Oktober 2013 01:29 > *An: *"public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org> > *Betreff: *Birthday blog post > *Neu gesendet von: *"public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org > > > *Neu gesendet am: *KW 42 | Mittwoch, 16. Oktober 2013 01:30**** > > **** > > Blog reviewers, please take a look at this draft: **** > > **** > > http://blog.webplatform.org/?p=729&preview=1&_ppp=9c032ed7ef**** > > **** > > Append your comments and suggestions to this thread.**** > > **** > > Thanks!**** > > ~Scott**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > ** ** >
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