- From: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com>
- Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 17:27:33 +0200
- To: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Cc: Julee <julee@adobe.com>, Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com>, Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
I've read through this thread, and have ended up being confused as to what to do for this week's WPDW. For now, until a decision is made, shall I just choose the properties from the master google spreadsheet, and then fill in my choices for the week in a new section on http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday, and in a new page at http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05-15 ? Chris Mills Opera Software, dev.opera.com W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M) On 14 May 2013, at 00:23, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org> wrote: > Hi, Julee, Scott- > > Scott's right that the Master List is hard to edit (as are all tables of any size in MediaWiki...). > > How about a compromise where we just redo the spreadsheet to have the right fields, and have the coordinators edit that? > > That way, we reduce the complexity of the task for coordinators, and still shield the regular contributors from dealing with the intimidating Bid Spreadsheet? > > I do like Julee's solution of an autogenerated final list. > > Ultimately, so long as we preserve the bite-size morsels for the contributors, I don't mind how we deal with the coordinator tasks. The workflow shouldn't get in our way, it should help us focus. > > (That said, I personally like the sortable Master List... it helped me decide what the topic areas should be for the first week.) > > Regards- > -Doug > > On 5/13/13 5:53 PM, Julee wrote: >> Hi, Scott: >> >> I think Doug didn't want to use that spreadsheet anymore. It doesn't >> have the tasks broken out and it was felt that its complexity is >> preventing folks from contributing. The 3 different tables were created >> to provide simpler, more manageable views. In the wiki, these different >> views can only be generated by creating different tables. Maintenance, >> then, becomes painful and time-consuming. The weekly spreadsheet doesn't >> have the priority or the the standards, and the the master doesn't have >> notes. Otherwise, we could just rebuild the master list from the weekly >> tables. >> >> If we could have the same fields in the weekly table and the master >> table, we could call the master the to-do list. Then from the weekly >> tables, we could simply concatenate them into a master "finished" list. >> >> I don't think once we have done a property, we need to keep pointer to >> the spec (as that information would be on the page). That would mean the >> only difference between the master and the weekly would be the priority >> — which is something we might need a record of. >> >> *How about if we add the priority to the end of the weekly check list?* >> The data is preserved, but it won't bother coordinators, which is the >> concern with adding too many columns. The to-do and the "finished" >> tables would not be the same, but no critical data would be lost. >> >> *Then, the workflow would be:* >> >> * The decider moves the current week's properties out of the master to >> weekly page >> * The coordinators update the weekly page with usernames and notes >> * As the properties get finished, the coordinators copy the line items >> from the weekly page to the "finished" table >> >> >> J >> ---------------------------- >> julee@adobe.com >> @adobejulee >> >> From: Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com <mailto:scottrowe@google.com>> >> Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:12 PM >> To: julee <julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> >> Cc: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com <mailto:cmills@opera.com>>, Doug >> Schepers <schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>>, Janet Swisher >> <jswisher@mozilla.com <mailto:jswisher@mozilla.com>>, >> "public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>" >> <public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>> >> Subject: Re: REMINDER: WPDW coordinators, please update all three tables >> >> Hi Julee, >> >> The original spreadsheet: >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkRs-89PKiZpdE0xdm9Sb1ZvRW1ZRzMtWEdyU0Z4OEE#gid=14 >> >> This is just a lot easier to work with. The weekly tables are okay, not >> a problem to work with. But the larger, "master_list" is so large that >> working with it in wiki is very difficult. That's why I recommend using >> the original spreadsheet to track results. >> >> ~Scott >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Julee <julee@adobe.com >> <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> wrote: >> >> What spreadsheet are you keeping up to date? This one: >> >> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05-08#Border_color_properties >> >> ? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Julee >> ---------------------------- >> julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com> >> @adobejulee >> >> From: Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com <mailto:scottrowe@google.com>> >> Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 10:21 AM >> To: julee <julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> >> Cc: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com <mailto:cmills@opera.com>>, Doug >> Schepers <schepers@w3.org <mailto:schepers@w3.org>>, Janet Swisher >> <jswisher@mozilla.com <mailto:jswisher@mozilla.com>>, >> "public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>" >> <public-webplatform@w3.org <mailto:public-webplatform@w3.org>> >> Subject: Re: REMINDER: WPDW coordinators, please update all three tables >> >> Folks, >> >> I'd like to suggest that we reduce the paperwork for coordinators >> here by eliminating the last "master_list" table. This table is >> nearly impossible to edit quickly and easily. We already have a >> spreadsheet that is far easier to work with, and I'd suggest we >> stick with it. >> >> It may be possible to populate the "master_list" table with >> transclusions from the other tables, but I don't have time right now >> to work on that. >> >> In any case, I've continued to keep the spreadsheet up to date with >> my changes, and IMO, it works better than the giant "master_list" >> table in the wiki. >> >> ~Scott >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Julee <julee@adobe.com >> <mailto:julee@adobe.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi, WPDW coordinators: >> >> Please remember to: >> >> * update WPDW main page[1] with assigned items having check marks >> * update this week's page [2] with status >> * update master list [3] when things are done >> >> Thanks! >> >> Julee >> >> [1] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_Wednesday >> [2] >> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/2013-05-08 >> [3] >> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Meta:web_platform_wednesday/master_list >> ---------------------------- >> julee@adobe.com <mailto:julee@adobe.com> >> @adobejulee >> >> >>
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