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Re: Part 1 of beginner's course written

From: Sébastien Desbenoit <seb@desbenoit.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:05:27 +0200
Cc: Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com>, public-webplatform@w3.org
Message-Id: <E80ABD6E-34FC-4518-B831-AC513601653E@desbenoit.net>
To: Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com>
Thanks Chris, 

Let's go :) 

Le 16 avr. 2013 à 14:48, Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com> a écrit :

> Cool!
> 
> So, I have taken on board the feedback I received last night, and written a new version:
> 
> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/beginners/the_beginning
> 
> It is a lot shorter, includes a more effective summary (thanks Wendy), and includes some code examples demonstrating the effect of HTML, CSS and JavaScript, which are partly for show, and partly to instruct Seb on what to draw for me
> 
> Seb - you'll see the instructions for what I want you to draw in the ALL CAPS SECTIONS. Do you want me to try to draw some roughs of these as well, to give you more of an idea of what I want?
> 
> I have made separate HTML files containing all the code examples, and am hoping to include them in the page using Dabblet eventually. Where are we with Dabblet?
> 
> best,
> 
> Chris Mills
> Opera Software, dev.opera.com
> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org
> Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M)
> 
> On 16 Apr 2013, at 12:25, Sébastien Desbenoit <seb@desbenoit.net> wrote:
> 
>> You just have to ask and I will do!
>> 
>> 
>> Le 16 avr. 2013 à 13:02, Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com> a écrit :
>> 
>>> Agreed - thanks for the feedback Seb. I will think of some more ideas to include for images!
>>> 
>>> Have you got any time in the near future to draw diagrams for me?
>>> 
>>> Chris Mills
>>> Opera Software, dev.opera.com
>>> W3C Fellow, web education and webplatform.org
>>> Author of "Practical CSS3: Develop and Design" (http://goo.gl/AKf9M)
>>> 
>>> On 16 Apr 2013, at 11:48, Sébastien Desbenoit <seb@desbenoit.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Chris, 
>>>> 
>>>> I will work on the image of the town in 1.3 section. 
>>>> 
>>>> It could use a few other examples/illustration like in the HTML/CSS/JS part with some two elements: code/render. Even if they just emphasized the content, a few graphical elements could help the reader to stay focus on the text, doesn't it? 
>>>> 
>>>> Best, 
>>>> 
>>>> Seb. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Le 15 avr. 2013 à 23:03, Chris Mills <cmills@opera.com> a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 15 Apr 2013, at 21:37, Janet Swisher <jswisher@mozilla.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/15/13 1:28 PM, Chris Mills wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Today I've put together a first draft of the beginner's course:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/beginners/the_beginning
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Let me know what you think. Does the language hit the mark for complete beginners? Is this too much theory up front? The next Part dives straight into practical coding, and I've tried to keep this as short as possible.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for writing this! However, I think that yes, it is too much theory up front. This is mostly stuff that gets between the learner and making a web page, which is why they came here. In addition, it conveys a sense of "Careful! The Web is complicated and you might break it!" 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> About the most essential parts of this seem to me to be:
>>>>>> * What is a web browser? (The rest of the web architecture can wait until needed.)
>>>>>> * Tools of the trade (Just browsers and text editors; leave aside FTP for now.)
>>>>>> * What web standards do we use to build the Web? (I'd rename to "What languages do we use to build the Web?" Indoctrination about web standards can wait until later.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Janet. I think you are right. I will have another go at this tomorrow. ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My challenge to you is: What are the learning outcomes for this section? What will the learner be able to *do* when they've finished? (For more info, see http://www.library.illinois.edu/infolit/learningoutcomes.html)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Readers will
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Know how the web works, at a basic level
>>>>> * Know what a web browser is
>>>>> * Understand what technologies they will be learning in this course
>>>>> * Know what software they need to do web development, and have installed said software
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think this is probably reasonable at this stage
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Sébastien Desbenoit - http://notes.desbenoit.net - http://internetetmoi.fr
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Sébastien Desbenoit - http://notes.desbenoit.net - http://internetetmoi.fr
>> 
> 

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Sébastien Desbenoit - http://notes.desbenoit.net - http://internetetmoi.fr


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