Re: Presentation to Web Payments IG

RE: "Apple (IMHO) isn't a problem or foe, in regards to Web Payments."

Agreed. That's what I was saying.


RE: " In fact, they'll more than likely turn out to be quite the opposite."

Because eventually market forces will pull them there. They won't oppose
that. But they're hardly proactive leaders in the open standards realm the
way they are the undisputed leader in applied industrial design and UI
elegance for generic computing devices.


RE: "that Apple is anti open standards"

Not (usually) anti. Just aloof.


RE: "a clear signal in regards to providing open interfaces into this
various subsystems"

Open interfaces to non-standard subsystems just ensure that they don't
actually cut themselve off from the majority.


RE: Thus, aren't we better of, at this point, not jumping to conclusions
about their pending payments segment inflection

Jumping?  Sorry, I guess I missed noticing the Apple representative in the
W3C Community Group discussions and in Paris.  :-)

Joseph


On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
wrote:

> On 10/18/14 6:40 AM, Joseph Potvin wrote:
>
>> Market  Share :
>>
>> http://www.businessinsider.com/android-ios-market-share-
>> data-and-apples-iphone-6-2014-8
>> http://techcrunch.com/2014/05/06/android-still-growing-
>> market-share-by-winning-first-time-smartphone-users/
>>
>> Given your friend's comment that "Several of my friends in the payment
>> business here in XXXXX helped Apple design Apple Pay", s/he is apparently a
>> little too influenced by all the unnecessary money that Apple users spend
>> on their devices:
>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/tonybradley/2013/11/15/
>> android-dominates-market-share-but-apple-makes-all-the-money/
>>
>> No argument from me that Apple devices tend to be more elegant, and also
>> tend to instill more brand loyalty than other makes. That's fine. The rest
>> of the world treats such devices as practical commodity items. Open
>> standards enable consumers to easily do comparison shopping and to jump
>> ship to other brands in an open market. Apple will continue to resist any
>> open standards that make comparison shopping and brand jumping easy for
>> their market segment.
>>
>> The W3C community should not lose sleep over the continued efforts by
>> Apple to loudly distinguish itself from the open standards movement.
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>
> I am not convinced that Apple is anti open standards. We have to
> distinguish packaging (what they are excellent at) from open standards
> compliance (which they use in this packaging).
>
> Apple has made a clear signal in regards to providing open interfaces into
> this various subsystems. Thus, aren't we better of, at this point, not
> jumping to conclusions about their pending payments segment inflection?
>
> Apple (IMHO) isn't a problem or foe, in regards to Web Payments. In fact,
> they'll more than likely turn out to be quite the opposite.
>
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>
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