- From: Nick Shearer <nshearer@apple.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 20:44:54 -0700
- To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
- Cc: public-webpayments-ig@w3.org
> On May 21, 2015, at 8:06 PM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote: > > On 05/21/2015 11:31 AM, Joerg.Heuer@telekom.de wrote: >> The problem described below is analog to the use of the NFC device - >> or more exactly that of a specific 'aID' via NFC. There can only be >> one handler for a specific aID on a given device. The choice is >> usually made available to the user by a 'wallet' application which >> has the right to 'talk' to the device. With HCE Google demonstrated >> that the stringent connection between NFC and SE is 'loosened' by the >> operating system. Still, combinations of NFC and SE are not >> compromised in their integrity, HCE just offered more choice. > > +1 > >> Assuming there's one 'wallet app' for all isn't a bad starting point >> to give users best control and transparency. > > I think that's a very dangerous starting position for anyone that is not > in control of the OS platform (which is most of us). > > History has demonstrated that the market doesn't always favor customer > choice and transparency. > >> That said, I believe that we don't have to solve this problem first. > > Agreed. > >> We will be able to standardize and recommend along one concept for >> communicating with one app on the device. If the operating system >> gets in between and 'forks' communication with several apps our >> protocols shouldn't falter, but support it. Nothing wrong in that - >> or is it? > > I agree wrt. 'forking communication'. That's what W3C should be striving > for from day one, and until that happens, I'm wary of putting the > minority of organizations this group in a very favorable competitive > position vs. the other members in the group. > > Here's a counter-proposal: > > For version 1.0, cloud-only wallets. This enables everyone to compete on > a level playing field. Any one of us should be able to launch a cloud > wallet. For clarity, would you mind providing a definition of a “cloud-only wallet” in this context? > > Once we figure out how to create an OS-level message bus that enables a > level playing field w/ native-app/SE wallets, we can enable that as soon > as it is available. > > This does two things: > > 1. Starts all of us on a level playing field (cloud-only wallets). > 2. Progressively enhances the platform when we're sure we've created an > ecosystem that's going to support fair competition. > > -- manu > > -- > Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny) > Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. > blog: The Marathonic Dawn of Web Payments > http://manu.sporny.org/2014/dawn-of-web-payments/ >
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