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Re: I noticed that the BBC are using Client Side Certs recently

From: Mo McRoberts <Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 10:40:34 +0000
To: Mischa Tuffield <mischa@mmt.me.uk>
CC: public-webid <public-webid@w3.org>
Message-ID: <FF802DC9-D728-42F1-BEE3-CEE492755FA1@bbc.co.uk>
Ah, right ? that?ll be because ssl.live.bbc.co.uk isn?t strictly a public-facing domain; https-everywhere is using it because technically it works, but it does have some unintended consequences (as you?ve seen).

M.

On  2014-May-07, at 10:18, Mischa Tuffield <mischa@mmt.me.uk> wrote:

> Hi Mo, 
> 
> I use Firefox, an https-everywhere (how did you guess!). 
> 
> I get it on pretty much every bbc.co.uk URL I access, for example : 
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/
> 
> I think the domain requesting the cert is ssl.live.bbc.co.uk.
> 
> Cheers! 
> 
> M
> 
> <Screen Shot 2014-05-07 at 10.16.32.png>
> On 7 May 2014, at 09:33, Mo McRoberts <Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Oh, are you using https-everywhere or similar?
>> 
>> M.
>> 
>> On  2014-May-07, at 09:29, Mo McRoberts <Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> We?re not meant to be, not publicly at least?
>>> 
>>> There was a period where parts of the stack were ?optionally? requesting a client cert (we use X.509 client certificates extensively within the BBC for staff and contractors to access systems), and some browsers would always show a request dialog if so ? but I thought that had been switched off
>>> 
>>> Can you let me know which browser (I?m guessing Firefox) & URL you were accessing, and I?ll pass it onto the ops team?
>>> 
>>> M.
>>> 
>>> On  2014-May-06, at 00:49, Mischa Tuffield <mischa@mmt.me.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> Apologies if this is old news, but over the last week or so I have noticed that the BBC are requesting a client side cert from me every time I visit their site, I wonder what they are doing, perhaps it is worth finding out somehow.
>>>> 
>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-05-06 at 00.46.31.png>
>>>> 
>>>> All the best and keep up the good work folk!
>>>> 
>>>> M
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________
>>>> Mischa Tuffield PhD
>>>> http://mmt.me.uk/
>>>> @mischat
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Mo McRoberts - Chief Technical Architect - Archives & Digital Public Space,
>>> Zone 2.12, BBC Scotland, 40 Pacific Quay, Glasgow G51 1DA.
>>> 
>>> Inside the BBC? My movements this week: http://neva.li/where-is-mo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Mo McRoberts - Chief Technical Architect - Archives & Digital Public Space,
>> Zone 2.12, BBC Scotland, 40 Pacific Quay, Glasgow G51 1DA.
>> 
>> Inside the BBC? My movements this week: http://neva.li/where-is-mo
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
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Ah, right — that’ll be because ssl.live.bbc.co.uk isn’t strictly a public-facing domain; https-everywhere is using it because technically it works, but it does have some unintended consequences (as you’ve seen).

M.

On  2014-May-07, at 10:18, Mischa Tuffield <mischa@mmt.me.uk> wrote:

> Hi Mo, 
> 
> I use Firefox, an https-everywhere (how did you guess!). 
> 
> I get it on pretty much every bbc.co.uk URL I access, for example : 
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/
> 
> I think the domain requesting the cert is ssl.live.bbc.co.uk.
> 
> Cheers! 
> 
> M
> 
> <Screen Shot 2014-05-07 at 10.16.32.png>
> On 7 May 2014, at 09:33, Mo McRoberts <Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Oh, are you using https-everywhere or similar?
>> 
>> M.
>> 
>> On  2014-May-07, at 09:29, Mo McRoberts <Mo.McRoberts@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> We’re not meant to be, not publicly at least…
>>> 
>>> There was a period where parts of the stack were ‘optionally’ requesting a client cert (we use X.509 client certificates extensively within the BBC for staff and contractors to access systems), and some browsers would always show a request dialog if so — but I thought that had been switched off
>>> 
>>> Can you let me know which browser (I’m guessing Firefox) & URL you were accessing, and I’ll pass it onto the ops team?
>>> 
>>> M.
>>> 
>>> On  2014-May-06, at 00:49, Mischa Tuffield <mischa@mmt.me.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> Apologies if this is old news, but over the last week or so I have noticed that the BBC are requesting a client side cert from me every time I visit their site, I wonder what they are doing, perhaps it is worth finding out somehow.
>>>> 
>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-05-06 at 00.46.31.png>
>>>> 
>>>> All the best and keep up the good work folk!
>>>> 
>>>> M
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________
>>>> Mischa Tuffield PhD
>>>> http://mmt.me.uk/
>>>> @mischat
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Mo McRoberts - Chief Technical Architect - Archives & Digital Public Space,
>>> Zone 2.12, BBC Scotland, 40 Pacific Quay, Glasgow G51 1DA.
>>> 
>>> Inside the BBC? My movements this week: http://neva.li/where-is-mo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Mo McRoberts - Chief Technical Architect - Archives & Digital Public Space,
>> Zone 2.12, BBC Scotland, 40 Pacific Quay, Glasgow G51 1DA.
>> 
>> Inside the BBC? My movements this week: http://neva.li/where-is-mo
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----------------------------
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk
>> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and
>> may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated.
>> If you have received it in
>> error, please delete it from your system.
>> Do not use, copy or disclose the
>> information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender
>> immediately.
>> Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails
>> sent or received.
>> Further communication will signify your consent to
>> this.
>> -----------------------------
> 
> _______________________________
> Mischa Tuffield PhD
> http://mmt.me.uk/
> @mischat
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Mo McRoberts - Chief Technical Architect - Archives & Digital Public Space,
Zone 2.12, BBC Scotland, 40 Pacific Quay, Glasgow G51 1DA.

Inside the BBC? My movements this week: http://neva.li/where-is-mo







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