- From: John Hudson <tiro@tiro.com>
- Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:07:00 -0800
- To: WOFF Working Group FONT <public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>
Minutes at http://www.w3.org/2011/01/19-webfonts-minutes.html and below as text WebFonts Working Group Teleconference 19 Jan 2011 See also: [2]IRC log [2] http://www.w3.org/2011/01/19-webfonts-irc Attendees Present Vlad, John, Cristopher, Chris, Tal, Sergey, Sylvain Regrets Dave_Crossland, Christopher_Slye, Jonathan_Kew Chair Vlad Scribe John Contents * [3]Topics 1. [4]Last Call responses * [5]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 19 January 2011 Chris are you calling in? <ChrisL> yes, sorry I have another call back to back with this one <ChrisL> zakim seems to knot know the call started Vlad: can we recover previous minutes; Chris, maybe some <ChrisL> IRC log of last weeks call [6]http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-webfonts-irc [6] http://www.w3.org/2011/01/12-webfonts-irc Last Call responses Vlad: ref. Jonathan's proposal to resolve issue 8 localisation of credit elements using multiple credit elements Tal: support Vlad: caveat that this causes bloat of metadata <ChrisL> [7]http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html [7] http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/DoC/issues-lc-2010.html <ChrisL> so that is 14. I18N-ISSUE-8: Direction attributes needed I18N-ISSUE-8 = WebFonts 14 No objections; response to I18n assigned to Jonathan <ChrisL> ACTION jonathan to respons on issue-14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-57 - Respons on issue-14 [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-01-26]. ACTION Tal revise test cases to allow multiple credit elements <trackbot> Created ACTION-58 - Revise test cases to allow multiple credit elements [on Tal Leming - due 2011-01-26]. <ChrisL> 9. I18n-ISSUE-2: Why not using xml:lang? Chris: propose XML:lang but backwards compatible option to allow lang <scribe> new content to use XML:lang Tal: will require test updates Vlad: should avoid allowing both Chris: agree ACTION Chris Respond to I18n-ISSUE-2 <trackbot> Created ACTION-59 - Respond to I18n-ISSUE-2 [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-01-26]. Wait for I18n response to proposals before Tal revises tests 11. I18n-ISSUE-5: Use of attributes for human readable text [WOFF] [8]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2010OctDec/0104.html [8] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2010OctDec/0104.html Tal: will change to credit elements help resolve this? Vlad: I18n also concerned that markup cannot be used with attributes John: can we version metadata? Chris: possible, but concerns about opening the door to version 2 metadata ... but other concerns about I18n pushback Vlad: existing metadata acceptable in XML terms; how serious is e.g. markup in credits Chris: possible use case for markup in credit: ruby notation John: might I18n be satisfied with version 1 backwards compatible fixes + review for possible version 2 Chris: maybe, but they might come back with 'Why not get it right first time?' Vlad: two concerns: localisation (already addressed, issue 8); inability to use markup. Markup need not anticipated, except edge case scribe: respond partial resolution (issue 8) but need to maintain backwards compatibility, ref. charter [issue 8] hmm, 8 + paren is emoticon General response to I18n: we seek to resolve their issues within the framework of maintaining backwards compatibility <ChrisL> 12. I18N-ISSUE-6: Localization mechanism too restricted [9]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2010OctDec/0105.html [9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2010OctDec/0105.html [10]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2010OctDec/0108.htm l [10] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2010OctDec/0108.html <ChrisL> [11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2010OctDec/0105.htm l [11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2010OctDec/0105.html Possible use of ...lang mechanism for vendor, credit and licensee elements Vlad: what would happen to e.g. name attribute in vendor element with use of ..lang Chris: ask Liam ACTION Vlad Contact Liam re. XML questions <trackbot> Created ACTION-60 - Contact Liam re. XML questions [on Vladimir Levantovsky - due 2011-01-26]. I18N-ISSUE-7: Paragraphs and inline content [WOFF] [12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2010OctDec/0106.htm l [12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2010OctDec/0106.html Vlad: allow markup in text elements Chris: even if no, the spec needs to be revised ... add div and span ACTION Chris To provide samples and respond to I18n <trackbot> Created ACTION-61 - Provide samples and respond to I18n [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-01-26]. ACTION Jonathan To modify spec text re. div and span in text elements <trackbot> Created ACTION-62 - Modify spec text re. div and span in text elements [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-01-26]. <ChrisL> Questions from SZilles (adobe) [13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2011JanMar/0001.htm l [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2011JanMar/0001.html Chris: agree comment 1, suggest splitting introduction into two sections ACTION Chris Respond to Stephen Zilles re. introduction/normative <trackbot> Created ACTION-63 - Respond to Stephen Zilles re. introduction/normative [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-01-26]. ACTION Jonathan Remove normative statements from introduction to new section 'General Requirements' <trackbot> Created ACTION-64 - Remove normative statements from introduction to new section 'General Requirements' [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-01-26]. Chris: 2. Unique ID; incorrect, but will revise spec to clarify ACTION Chris Respond to Stephen Zilles re. uniqueid <trackbot> Created ACTION-65 - Respond to Stephen Zilles re. uniqueid [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-01-26]. Possible future action on Jonathan Chris: 3. confusion over possible presence of children of localisable elements ... unclear to at least two people, so text needs to be clearer Vlad: is that SZ's actual concern? <ChrisL> text content and child elements Vlad: modify, 'every time an element may be localised' add mention of children ACTION Jonathan Edit spec 'this element may be localised' replaced 'this element may be localised using text child element' <trackbot> Created ACTION-66 - Edit spec 'this element may be localised' replaced 'this element may be localised using text child element' [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-01-26]. ACTION Jonathan Edit section 6, past paragraph: 'at least one text sub element' replaced by 'at least one text child element'. <trackbot> Created ACTION-67 - Edit section 6, past paragraph: 'at least one text sub element' replaced by 'at least one text child element'. [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-01-26]. ACTION Jonathan General replacement: 'sub elements' to 'child elements' <trackbot> Created ACTION-68 - General replacement: 'sub elements' to 'child elements' [on Jonathan Kew - due 2011-01-26]. <ChrisL> Bert's comments [14]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2011JanMar/0009.htm l [14] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-font/2011JanMar/0009.html Address in email SZ No.4 : repeat of conformance criteria in two places Make one informative and link to normative Chris + Vlad : possibly remove summary Chris: summary derivable, hence redundant Agreed Question to be posed on email in case of objections ACTION Vlad Enquire on email re. removal of summary of conformance requirements <trackbot> Created ACTION-69 - Enquire on email re. removal of summary of conformance requirements [on Vladimir Levantovsky - due 2011-01-26]. Vlad: travelling next week, so might not make call; discuss Bert Bos' comments on email; skip next week's call <ChrisL> next week canceled Summary of Action Items [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [15]scribe.perl version 1.135 ([16]CVS log) $Date: 2011/01/19 22:04:01 $ _________________________________________________________ [15] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [16] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ Scribe.perl diagnostic output [Delete this section before finalizing the minutes.] This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.135 of Date: 2009/03/02 03:52:20 Check for newer version at [17]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002 /scribe/ [17] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/ Guessing input format: RRSAgent_Text_Format (score 1.00) No ScribeNick specified. 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