- From: Dominique Hazaël-Massieux <dom@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:49:03 +0100
- To: public-webarch-comments@w3.org
- Message-Id: <1077281343.30689.385.camel@stratustier>
Hello, Here comes a more substantive comment on the Webarch document; I've extracted from the document the list of constraints/principle/good practices (attached as text) - using a simplistic xslt also attached. I've tried to analyze the kind of requirements they were creating. The 'subjects' [1] on which they apply (when defined) are in the last call version: * resource owners * published of a URI * (web) agents * user agents * authors of a specification * format/language designers * server managers * specifications [which probably would be the most contentious wrt to [1]] Here are the issues that I have with these subjects: * "resource owners" are not defined; the document details the various ways a URI can be owned depending on its scheme, but it does not tell what it means to own a resource; the fix might just to defer this question to other social structures, but I think it is important to clarify these questions before having the first requirement on "resource owners"; it would also be a good idea to insist on the difference between owning a URI and owning the resource identified by this URI * "publisher of a URI": what is this? Is it the URI owner? Does it need to be differentiated from the resource owner? * "agents" vs "user agents": the two terms are used in the conformance requirements; presumably, the user agents differ from the general agents case in so that they act on behalf of someone (according to the definition); but which agents don't? Said otherwise, for which agents the principle "agents MUST NOT silently ignore authoritative server metadata" doesn't apply? * "authors of a specification" vs "language designer" vs "format designer" The distinction between format and language is said to be null in the document; I believe that usually, format is associated to the syntactic part of a language (which also includes the semantics); I think that at least the terms should be used consistently (ie either 'language designer' or 'format designer') in the conformance requirements, if only for ease of reading. Also, the terms "authors of a specifications" seems to be bound to the same type of subjects, but probably with a wider scope - maybe is there a way to merge all these terms in one? * "server managers" Recommendations for server managers seems to be misplaced in an architectural document; I think they should belong to another document (CHIPs [2] come to my mind) * there is one instance of conformance requirement applied to "specifications" (Specifications that use QNames to represent...); I guess it should be re-targeted to "specification authors" or "language designer" or something else. Or the contrary, which I would prefer (except for the note on RFC Keywords usage) - that is, I think the TAG should define what a "Web-friendly specification" (or coin a better term) should allow, enforce, constrain. (I prefer this approach on the one defining requirements for authors specifications, since I find it more natural to review a language saying "it is web-friendly in so that...", "it is not web-friendly in so that...", than to say "these authors are Web-morons" ) In any case, my general comment is that it would be better to reduce the list of conformance subjects in the arch document: - to avoid some of the fuzziness introduced by having non-defined conformance subjects - to make it easier for the reader to understand the requirements Dom 1. Some would argue that these subjects should be agents; e.g. http://www.w3.org/2001/01/mp23 ; I'm not raising an issue on this, though, since I'm still unclear on all the aspects of it... See also http://esw.w3.org/topic/RfcKeywords 2. http://www.w3.org/TR/chips -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - http://www.w3.org/People/Dom/ W3C/ERCIM mailto:dom@w3.org
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